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[Jamski]

Silly

You have to put a tiger-skin rug on the stairs.

-Jam

[Skanky Burns]

Its my party and I'll cr.. erm.. put marbles on the stairs if I want to.

[Nubclear]

You have not answered the vendetta question.

That will be up to CyCon. If they wish to persue vendetta, they may.
If not...then they may not.
Again, it really is up to them.

Second, if former PUT members decided to go their own away in the future, as it is a voluntary initiative by PUT, they should be allowed to do so.

They should be, but for all intents and purposes they are an eliminated faction now.
I'm sure, however, if PUT members wanted to regain their nation that CyCon would allow them to
Remember, this wasn't forced vassalization.

Anyhow from what you say I gather they are really just a humdrum permi pact.

Sigh. Call it what you will.

[Drogue]

Originally posted by Jamski
Sorry, but PUT are letting the CyCon play the PUT turn for them?

This stinks.

Imagine this. PUT decides to ceed all their bases to us (allowed). That is the same thing, in effect.

Sure, we could not play the CyCon turn, we could let Archaic play it and tell him what to do. It makes no difference in reality. We are effectively one faction. Whether we ceed all PUT bases to the CyCon or leave it as too, I don't see a difference.

We have two turns, but we only get one turn of base production, one of movement, etc, just split into two. It's like playing half your turn, and then stopping and playing the other half. What is the difference between that and playing it as one turn, joining the two turns together?

Originally posted by Hercules
Jamski makes good points. If you are now one unified grouping a la Germany a la Arab state, then you don't need two turns.

We could do it as one turn, but it makes no difference. We can move each unit one space, each base has one turn production. If we did it as one turn it would be the same.

Originally posted by Hercules
Second, if former PUT members decided to go their own away in the future, as it is a voluntary initiative by PUT, they should be allowed to do so.

There are only 2 PUT members, neither of which is particularly active. Archaic has the final say, as he runs this as a PBEM, so if he decides to ceed PUT to the CyCon, that is his choice. If I give my computer to someone, that is my choice. If I gave it to them, and then wanted it back, they would probably do so, but they would be under no obligation to.

[Jamski]

Imagine this. PUT decides to ceed all their bases to us (allowed). That is the same thing, in effect.

This is hardly fair then, is it? And don't feed me some line of krap about how you and the Uni have been buddy-buddy for years.

The fair thing is to self-destruct the Uni faction if they have had enough, and let any surviving members join the CyCon if they so wish.

-Jam

[Illuminatus]

Originally posted by Jamski




The fair thing is to self-destruct the Uni faction if they have had enough, and let any surviving members join the CyCon if they so wish.

-Jam

Why! Destroy such magnificient bases? If they want to gift them their choice - our happiness - other factions unhappiness

[Jamski]

Yes, but HARDLY FAIR, really.

-Jam

[Nubclear]

It may not be fair, but its not against the rules.

[Illuminatus]

Doublepost - sorry

[Illuminatus]

Triplepost - sorry again

[Micha]

Originally posted by Drogue
We have two turns, but we only get one turn of base production, one of movement, etc, just split into two. It's like playing half your turn, and then stopping and playing the other half. What is the difference between that and playing it as one turn, joining the two turns together?

Erm, technological research? You can beeline with yourself! Now if that wasn´t unfair...

[Maniac]

You can also beeline with yourself.
I presume you are talking about leapfrogging, but I don't see the difference. Assuming equal labs production, it doesn't make a difference whether or not your labs production is gathered in one faction or split over two. You'll still need to research the same techs. In fact, we will have more problems, as we have twice as much chance as you that a beeline can be interrupted due to mod3 rule interference.

[Drogue]

Originally posted by Jamski
This is hardly fair then, is it? And don't feed me some line of krap about how you and the Uni have been buddy-buddy for years.

I'm not going to. Fair or not, it's the PUT's choice. If you wish to ceed your bases to another faction, you may. If another faction wishes to ceed theirs to you, they may. It's like giving a submissive ally all your techs, and units, etc. Some gift them bases too.

If you told a faction to ceed you a base or you'll declare war, and they do, should that be against the rules?

And it is fair, because we all live by the same rules. If you wish to do the same, you may. However if you do not wish to, that is your perogative. The rules are the same for everyone.

Originally posted by Jamski
The fair thing is to self-destruct the Uni faction if they have had enough, and let any surviving members join the CyCon if they so wish.

They don't wish to self destruct. Their faction, they decide their diplomacy. If they want to submit to another faction as a submissive ally, they can. Quite realistic actually.

Originally posted by Micha
Erm, technological research? You can beeline with yourself! Now if that wasn´t unfair...

As Maniac has answered, as can anyone. It doesn't matter if it's all your research or half yours and half someone elses.

Also, why does that differ from before the unification? We were beelining with PUT then, we are now. That hasn't changed.

[Skanky Burns]

All's fair in love and war, dear.

[GeoModder]

Originally posted by Skanky Burns
All's fair in love and war, dear.

The only reason why you dare saying this is 'cause his avatar is gone on the moment?