ACDG Government structure.

[Lemmy]

What government positions will we have, what power do they have and how do we elect them?

I'm all in favor of how we did it last time, except we leave some position out at the start, like DoSE (Social Engineering). So we only keep the positions that actually have some work to do.

Maybe instead of governors we can have mayor's, one for each base instead of one for a region. The mayor suggests what facilities to build, where to place crawlers etc, and the minister has the final word on it.

[Drogue]

If we get enough people, mayors would be good. However not sure we'll have the participation, especially if we want contested elections.

[Maniac]

Re: ACDG Government structure.

Originally posted by Lemmy
I'm all in favor of how we did it last time, except we leave some position out at the start, like DoSE (Social Engineering). So we only keep the positions that actually have some work to do.

In the Consciousness the SE duties are fulfilled by the Second Function, as that fits nicely with his other macro-political duties like starting nominations and elections.
In a Hive game, the Alpha Talent and SE duties could be fulfilled by the Secretary-General.

[Maniac]

How is the AXDG government organized btw? I think I saw a picture of its structure once, but I can't remember exactly.

[Voltaire]

Originally posted by Drogue
If we get enough people, mayors would be good. However not sure we'll have the participation, especially if we want contested elections.

Forget it, we'll never have enough people for positions like that. The best idea is something akin to the government structure of the original ACDG, except cut down on the number of positions.

[MrWhereItsAt]

We had the following positions:

Commisioner - plays the game. As we were the UN, Comissioner worked. I guess we would tailor this name (along with the others) to whatever faction we chooose.

Alpha Talent - the Commish's deputy. Plays the game in place of the Commish for whatever reason. ALso is responsible for taking over any absent Director's position, posting nominations and elections threads.

Director of Science - in charge of polling for science research paths

Director of Peacekeeping Operations - the military Director. In charge of directing military units and probe teams, responsible for defending our bases.

Director of Foreign Affairs - responsible for all dealings with other factions apart from military maneouvres.

Director of Social Engineering
Sporadically responsible for polling on changing our SE choices. Not a full-time position, really, and we shouldn't elect one until we actually HAVE choices.

Director of Exploration and Intelligence
Umm.... maybe another defunct role, but we could perhaps have this in the early game. Make them responsible for polling on directions of exxploration and controllling scouts given over to exploration. Would probably be subsumed within the DPO later on.

Director of Internal Affairs
Not sure of this one.... perhaps coordinates build s in different cities that are individually controlled by Governors?

Governors
Responsible for directing formers, build queues, and worked tiles for their individual base/region. Can request energy rushes for things and must poll on whether to build an SP in their base when they want to. Have to coordinate with other Directors such as the DIA, DEI and DPO.

[Lemmy]

Aah, the DEI
It's certainly a full time job at the start, if you want to poll the exploration paths.....and being in control of the probe teams is fun! I wanna be like the CIA KGB director!

[GeneralTacticus]

MWIA's suggestions look good, but I'd suggest combining the DPO and DEI positions right from the start, to avoid bickering over unit control and avoid situations where the DPO has nothing to do at the start while the DEI has loads, and then the reversal of this as time goes on...

[Drogue]

Originally posted by Lemmy
Aah, the DEI
It's certainly a full time job at the start, if you want to poll the exploration paths.....and being in control of the probe teams is fun! I wanna be like the CIA KGB director!

Your not the only one I enjoyed my stint replacing you as DEI

[MrWhereItsAt]

Hey I was DEI for a short time. And DIE for a day when Lemmy didn't show up immediately after he won an election... Of course he showed up within 24 hours, so I had the shortest DIE directorship of all.

[Drogue]

I was DEI for 3 turns (well, 2 and a half really ) and had one 2 turns as DPO when DEI was also incorporated in it.

However I think DEI and DPO should be consolidated, but I think DEI should be the name, since in a truly totalitarian way, we want our citizens to think we're being peaceful, as Director of Exploration and Intelligence seems peaceful, whereas Director of Hive Operations doesn't so much.

[Maniac]

Isn't "Peacekeeping Operations" peaceful enough?
Anyway, you can always call the office "Factional Defence". That's also peaceful.

[Drogue]

I think Peacekeeping operations seems too UN Peacekeepers like, and all Hive citizens hate the UN (Democracy... pah ) whereas Factional Defence stressed the defence, which is a military operation. I think deny that there is a military, as all units are simply for "exploration and intelligence". "Hive military? The Hive has no military" - think Muhammed Saeed al-Sahaf stylee

[AdamTG02]

I think Factional Defense is appropriate. The Hive is fairly paranoid, building bases underground and all, and defense seems to me like one of their top priorities.

That's not to say you couldn't play a faux-pacifist Hive... but what style you play really depends on who wins out in the initial post-landing power struggle. Thus, I wouldn't pick a set government structure pre-game -- let the Chairman set up the government as he sees fit. Totalitarian states are (all but nominally) not constitutional ones.

[Makahlua]

DIA was the combination of the Director of Terraforming and Director of Base production, later on around the time we got big enough for governors, and had them taking care of their own terrraforming. the DID then would approve builds and request units for the DPO/DEI.


At least that's how I remember it!