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  • #16
    What a chaos place. I heard it was some kind of a fest? Hmmm... Where's the xenorum?
    Be good, and if at first you don't succeed, perhaps failure will be back in fashion soon. -- teh Spamski

    Grapefruit Garden

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    • #17
      well, the mateys on board the ship supposed to deliver the finest quality of peace xenorum got thirsty halfway to mount planet, needless to say what happened next.

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      • #18
        Tsk Tsk Tsk; I'm disappointed in all you Comrades trying to convert Jamski, the fundamental freedoms of the Human Hive clearly guarantee freedom of religion, and freedom from religion.

        Besides he'll just spend eternity in hellfire for his blasphemy anyway, just like it says in the Book of Bob.
        You can only curse me to eternal damnation for so long!

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Lemmy
          What's a Googlie?
          /me slaps Lemmy around a bit with 200 combat drones

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Voltaire
            the Book of Bob
            Smile
            For though he was master of the world, he was not quite sure what to do next
            But he would think of something

            "Hm. I suppose I should get my waffle a santa hat." - Kuciwalker

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            • #21
              Religion is the opiate of the masses, remember.

              -Jam
              1) The crappy metaspam is an affront to the true manner of the artform. - Dauphin
              That's like trying to overninja a ninja when you aren't a mammal. CAN'T BE DONE. - Kassi on doublecrossing Ljube-ljcvetko
              Check out the ALL NEW Galactic Overlord Website for v2.0 and the Napoleonic Overlord Website or even the Galactic Captians Website Thanks Geocities!
              Taht 'ventisular link be woo to clyck.

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              • #22
                And xenorum is the preferred choice of the xeno-generation.
                Promoter of Public Morale
                Alpha Centauri Democracy Game

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                • #23
                  "Marx was wrong. Religion is not the opiate of the people. Opium suggests something soporific, numbing, dulling. Too often religion has been an aphrodisiac for horror, a Benzedrine for bestiality. At its best it has lifted spirits and raised spires. At its worst it has turned entire civilizations into cemeteries."

                  --Phillip Adams
                  You can only curse me to eternal damnation for so long!

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                  • #24
                    The PUT hereby refuses to have any part in these celebrations. Religion of any kind is the antithesis of science, rationality, and reality, and as such we refuse to participate in any religious ceremonies.

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                    • #25
                      Phillip Adams was wrong. Religion is indeed numbing, dulling and soporific, as the word opiate suggests. It numbs the workers to the harsh realities of their slavery and comforts them with a vision of an afterlife where they can rest. Furthermore the idea of a creator god, or a controlling god fills the masses with the idea that they have been put in their lowly positions for a purpose, and that god has chosen others to be thier masters. The opiate prevents their striving against the social system, and contents the workers with their lot.

                      -Jam
                      1) The crappy metaspam is an affront to the true manner of the artform. - Dauphin
                      That's like trying to overninja a ninja when you aren't a mammal. CAN'T BE DONE. - Kassi on doublecrossing Ljube-ljcvetko
                      Check out the ALL NEW Galactic Overlord Website for v2.0 and the Napoleonic Overlord Website or even the Galactic Captians Website Thanks Geocities!
                      Taht 'ventisular link be woo to clyck.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by GeneralTacticus
                        The PUT hereby refuses to have any part in these celebrations. Religion of any kind is the antithesis of science, rationality, and reality, and as such we refuse to participate in any religious ceremonies.
                        Actually it isn't. Belief in a God with no evidence of their existance is irrational, however belief in a God whom you know to exist is not. We have evidence of GooglieGods existance, thus belief in him is rational. Worshipping and appeasing GooglieGod is also rational, since if someone has power over you, being nice to them is simple common sense

                        Extract from the introduction to Conversations with GooglieGod
                        Arguments against religion are usually founded in the illogic in believing in something with no evidence, that almost defies common sense with it's existance. If you start from the position of knowing that God exists, as we know with GooglieGod (we all have regular conversations with him, unless that's just us - ed) then belief in him is not needed. I do not need to believe that I exist, as I know it to be true, and the same with GooglieGod. Therefore without the irrational and illogical belief, the appeasement of a being who has control over your fortunes is a logical course of action. The only illogical part of religion, the belief, has been removed.
                        Smile
                        For though he was master of the world, he was not quite sure what to do next
                        But he would think of something

                        "Hm. I suppose I should get my waffle a santa hat." - Kuciwalker

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Drogue

                          Actually it isn't. Belief in a God with no evidence of their existance is irrational, however belief in a God whom you know to exist is not. We have evidence of GooglieGods existance, thus belief in him is rational. Worshipping and appeasing GooglieGod is also rational, since if someone has power over you, being nice to them is simple common sense

                          Extract from the introduction to Conversations with GooglieGod
                          We know of the existence of a being known as 'Googlie'. We have, as yet, no evidence of his possessing any supernatural powers other than access to our computer networks, access which we granted him and which we can deny him.

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                          • #28
                            That (religion as an opiate) may well have been a contributory factor in the 19th and early 20th centuries in Europe but there are and were other factors that prevent people striving against social systems. Knowledge is power.

                            Thankfully in PEACE we have a range of quality media - Shipping News for example and an education system for pirates funded by appropriate(d) grant schemes.
                            On the ISDG 2012 team at the heart of CiviLIZation

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Drogue
                              Extract from the introduction to Conversations with GooglieGod
                              I do not need to believe that I exist, as I know it to be true, and the same with GooglieGod.
                              How do you know it is true that you exist? You think that you exist, but you may be simply a fictitious character in a made up world. You think you see things, hear things and feel things, but maybe it is just some electrical current or something similar that makes you to feel that way. How could one be sure of anything?

                              One day Zhou dreamed that he became a butterfly. But the next day he couldn't be sure if he was actually a butterfly who was dreaming that he became Zhou.
                              Be good, and if at first you don't succeed, perhaps failure will be back in fashion soon. -- teh Spamski

                              Grapefruit Garden

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                              • #30
                                Words of wisdom, HongHu. (Though I assume most Chinese learns this from childhood.) I thought the same thing as you when I read Drogue's extract, but I didn't bother to respond at first because I don't want to point out the fallacies in our future 3D articles.

                                Drogue, even if you have lots of evidence of a certain phenomenon, you can never be a 100% sure something is "true". One can only work from the empirical data one has and make reasonable assumptions from that. But you can never be absolutely sure evidence to the contrary will appear. So it will always stay a belief. Absolute truths will never be known.

                                Anyway, I'll stop talking about my strange worldview mix of experimental science and oriental philosophy. Last time I did that I got into one of those many arguments with Archaic...
                                Contraria sunt Complementa. -- Niels Bohr
                                Mods: SMAniaC (SMAC) & Planetfall (Civ4)

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