Stepping Down from the Hive

[Snowflake]

My understanding is that Comrade Tass somehow stumbled upon some insider knowledge that could benefit or harm certain factions. Being truthful to the spirit of the game he decided that he will not participate the ACDG as a Hiver so that the Hive will not benefit from his knowlege. (Not that we wouldn't like that considering the Hive's position on the power graph. But we Hivers consider our honor much more than our lives.)

As for the "3 days in July", it is mere speculations...

[Drogue]

Originally posted by Tassadar5000
Today, President Drogue and Chairman Voltaire announced that they would be exchanging reproduction technology. The deal, nicknamed 'The Claire Forlani Exchange', would be ratified by the Peoples Assembly Council of the Human Hive and the Blahblah Council of the Cybernetic Conciousness tomorrow.

Originally posted by Tassadar5000
And the Lord Drogue came down forth from the fields of Droguesville, and embraced Mistress Forlani.

Originally posted by Tassadar5000
5. Some odd combination of it all

I'd have to go for this. Part News (1), part Bibl-like (3) and a little of the story style (2). Basically, write some as each. Some can be as a story (like the view from above) and some can be as a newsletter to be published after, with story and Bible-like parts in it

[Googlie]

Maniac, Flubber, et al:

In prosecuting his duties as a loyal Hive citizen, Tass stumbled over an in-game mechanism that I have been able to duplicate. It should prolly be covered in some future set of PBEM generally accepted rules (but I have not seen it to date, and (obviously) was unaware of its existence.

Analogous (but not exactly the same) as being able to read in-game commlink exchanges through a simple word program (which is why all such exchanges should be conducted by e-mail or via Private message), it gave Tass knowledge regarding all the other factions - such knowledge being not generally available at this point in the game.

As I said, I have been able to replicate this.

Without revealing what knowledge he has gained (except to me) Tass has voluntarily withdrawn from the Hive's deliberations.

As I see it, we have 3 options:

> Ban Tass completely from all further activities in ACDG-2. I think this is harsh and unwarranted, given that other options are available

> Empower all factions to perform the Tass Manoeuvre and let him remain with the Hive This option would have the effect of throwing the game somewhat out-of-kilter at these crucial times, and unnecessary, given that a 3rd option is available

> Raise Tass to my right hand, and round out his knowledge by having him as my alter ego, able to act in any capacity that I can act in, but mandated with the official history of the game This is my preferred alternative, as it maintains Tass' interests in the game, and doesn't punish him for an inadvertent stumbling over a game mechanics item that any one of us could have done

Obviously, I will abide by the will of the players, but my strong advocacy of Option 3 should, I think, set minds at ease that indeed Tass has done the honourable thing and I would count myself priveleged to work with him in this expanded capacity as joint overseer - and historian - of the game.

Googlie

[Nubclear]

Originally posted by Googlie
> Ban Tass completely from all further activities in ACDG-2. I think this is harsh and unwarranted, given that other options are available

> Empower all factions to perform the Tass Manoeuvre and let him remain with the Hive This option would have the effect of throwing the game somewhat out-of-kilter at these crucial times, and unnecessary, given that a 3rd option is available

Yep. Because I know what I know....well, the Hive would gain a CONSIDERABLE advantage. I prefer the third option as it does not unbalance the game.

> Raise Tass to my right hand, and round out his knowledge by having him as my alter ego,

You mean...I would....become....one with YOU?!

Gladly! Though you know this would mean you would suffer from DID? Are you sure you wish to do this, Googlie?

[Googlie]

LOL

DID = Diety in Duplicate ???

(and we could sign ourselves GT, thereby further confusing everyone)

[Snowflake]

lol
Please do not, my GooglieGod.

[Drogue]

Googlie: Have PMed you, as there was some sensitive information in there.

[Chaunk]

If this "Tass Manouver" is one that could be used in all PBEMs then I'd rather not know. It'd be annoying knowing I'd have to do something to find out more information than I should (If I've understood correctly) in order to keep a level playing field.

On that basis, although I'd prefer that Tass not be made equal to Googlie, a historian would be a good position. Is that what the position entails or am I going loopy?

And why do we have 2 polls for the same thing currently?

C ß-5

[Nubclear]

Originally posted by Chaunk
If this "Tass Manouver" is one that could be used in all PBEMs then I'd rather not know. It'd be annoying knowing I'd have to do something to find out more information than I should (If I've understood correctly) in order to keep a level playing field.

Yep. And it would completly unbalance the game. Because then one person could, say, hack the SAV file and find out the locations, and EVERYTHING about EVERY faction. Complete game wrecker, IMO.

On that basis, although I'd prefer that Tass not be made equal to Googlie, a historian would be a good position. Is that what the position entails or am I going loopy?

Well, in order to be historiann...I have to have access to each faction Don't worry though. I wont be able to close polls or anything like that. Just viewing and writing.

[QYITE] And why do we have 2 polls for the same thing currently?

C ß-5 [/QUOTE]

Currently they are not for the same thing. One is to ratfiy myself for Godhood, and the other presents other options.

The one with 3 options is the current valid one, as the votes for the first one have been discarded.

[Googlie]

I guess there is a 4th option now that I have bowed to pressure to disclose the Tass Manoeuver (and which Maniac dismisses as No biggie - it's only useful for the first few tuens)

That fourth option would be for a temporary ban from the game until all factions know each others' starting locations - that way the knowledge inadvertently gained would become stale-dated

G.

[Snowflake]

Sound like a valid option to me. It means a sacrifice on Comrade Tass's part. But it does mean minimum costs to others. Although now everybody knows about the manoeuver. I only hope that every one of us has the courage to be truthful to the game as what Comrade Tass showed to us.

[Maniac]

Perhaps a bit in contradiction with my previous posts about Tassadar before I knew his "offense" but:

Don't ban Tassadar!!

[Googlie]

Well ..... what to do ????

There is resistance to giving him CMN-type powers

There is resistance to giving him private-forum access powers

There is resistance to banning him, albeit temporarily

There is resistance to having every faction employ the manoeuvre

Is there any resistance to continuing as if nothing has happened, and let the Hive gain what it can from this knowledge?

G

[moomin]

Let him play w/ the Hive. They've already proved they can deal with the inside info honorably.

[Mongoose]

How about continuing with Tass in the Hive and depending upon his much-touted honor not to reveal anything untoward?

If he can do that, some redemption might be found in the eyes of the distrustful. If he cannot, only small harm will be done.