Why is the Looniveristy such a group of lazy capitalist pig dogs?

[Rokossovky]

I am confused, and was thinking maybe you could all help. In recent times, the Looniversity has shown an inability to run turns in a efficient and timely manner. So, I thus pose a question to you all, why is the Looniversity such a group of lazy capitalist pig dogs? I eagerly await your answers as I am sure they are entertaining.

- Rokossovky

[Archaic]

Could it be that you usually post the turn at a time where the University members responsible for playing the turn are asleep?

[Rokossovky]

Twenty-four hours is a long time to sleep Capitalist Pig Dog Archaic. I mean that in a most respectful manner of course.

- Rokossovky

[Nubclear]

Originally posted by Rokossovky
Twenty-four hours is a long time to sleep Capitalist Pig Dog Archaic. I mean that in a most respectful manner of course.

- Rokossovky

There was week when I was deprived of all sleep for about 3 days, and then when I finally went to sleep....I slept for about 23 hours.

And they are lazy because they are capitalist pig dogs. It is just that simple, Comrade.

[Rokossovky]

Oh, lol, I forgot, sorry Capitalist Pig Dog Archaic, your mind is always alseep. :P

- Rokossovky

[Mr. President]

Are you sure the problem's not on your end? Communists aren't known for their computer manufacture skillz.

[MRT144]

so when is the not so secret alliance to planet bust the hive gonna go into effect?

[Rokossovky]

Originally posted by Mr. President
Are you sure the problem's not on your end? Communists aren't known for their computer manufacture skillz.

Yes, the turn has been sitting there for what is now 26 hours and has been downloaded 3 times (if you wouldn't mind, plz get your team to play the turn...)

so when is the not so secret alliance to planet bust the hive gonna go into effect?

I am surprised at you. The Free Drones and the Human Hive have much in common as far as promoting equality in a workers paradise are concerned. We would be best as allies working towards the goal of bringing our enlightened state to all the peoples of planet.

[Googlie]

Originally posted by Rokossovky
and has been downloaded 3 times

Note that 1 of the downloads (every faction, every turn) is mine

G.

[Archaic]

I downloaded it right before I went to University this morning. I checked the term's sub-forum, and saw that nothing had been decided for this turn yet, so I left it to when I got back, ie. Now, to do, so there would hopefully have been some discussion. I assume GT did similar before he went to School.

[Jamski]

This isn't the first time that a team's exceeded the 24 hour limit. HOWEVER, we did all democratically vote as to what would happen in these cases, and the matter is for our Googliegod to deal with, not to be used as an excuse for interfaction mud throwing. I will remind my Hive collegues that our turn-before-last was also over the 24 hour limit. This is however the second time the University has been over the limit since the poll was closed, so we must trust that Googlie knows the responsibilites he has, and that he knows best how to exercise them. I would, however, recommend that the University, and all of us, keep an eye on the clock, as I'm sure that eventually Googlie WILL start to apply the penalties we voted for.

(BTW, I doubt that the uni are running FM yet, so they are not Capitalist pig dogs, but rather Ivory tower intellectuals )

-Jam

[Drogue]

Jam: We voted for what to do if they broke the time period, but missed out many option such as the one many agreed on in the discussion about it. Also, what authorisation did anyone have to make that poll? Surely that is all GooglieGod's say. Moreover we have never voted on the actual time limit, and your poll I believe stated that it was 36 hours before any action is takern, and that 24 is what we want, but is a warning only. Futhermore, when we had the discussion about timings, we said that although 24 hours was what we wanted, 48 might be better when the game gets going.

Combine with that this being exam season, and I think we need leniency.

I for one still don't agree withthe poll you made, as not only was it emotive (options included "strict" and "nice") which is not allowed in official polls under the old constitution. Also, even the nice option did turned to beign strict after a warning, without including the option of not turning to strict, and the option that was discussed with regards to the different time periods, such as a warning after so much, action after a different amount of time, was not included in the poll.

I think this thread is in general bad taste too. The idea was this to be fun, not bound up in rules about when it must be played. I admit we need a time period to keep the game moving, but with everything else that's happening at the moment, I think we need a lot of leniency, and if not, we need a constitution written stating the rules of the game, that have been discussed and then voted on showing all options supported in the discussion. Maybe have a place for putting forward ideas, and then id any are seconded, they are used in the poll?

[Jamski]

Drouge : I agree with you - as I said, the matter is for GooglieGod to deal with, not for a thread such as this one. The poll you mention, as you say, I agree also has no "legal" force. GooglieGod decides on these things, but I beleive GooglieGod is using it as a guideline for the general feeling about late playing. I'm happy to make another poll anytime, and we can see how people's feelings are about the subject now. I propose the first poll asks this question :
After how long should Googlie administer a "punishment"

• No punishment
• 3 x 24 hour warnings, then Googlie plays the turn as best he can the fourth and consecutive times.
• 3 x 24 hour warnings, then Googlie plays the turn as best he can the fourth time, then he just presses end turn for further occurences.
• 2 x 24 hour warnings, then Googlie plays the turn as best he can the third and consecutive times.
• 2 x 24 hour warnings, then Googlie plays the turn as best he can the third time, then he just presses end turn for further occurences.
• 1 x 24 hour warnings, then Googlie plays the turn as best he can the second and consecutive times.
• 1 x 24 hour warnings, then Googlie plays the turn as best he can the second time, then he just presses end turn for the third and any further occurences.
• After 24 hours Googlie plays the turn as best he can.
• After 24 Googlie plays the turn as best he can the first time, then he just presses end turn for the second and any further occurences.
• Googlie just presses End Turn.
• The team is eliminated.
• Write-in
• Xenobanana

Any objections to those choices? Speak now or forever hold thy peace. I shall make a poll in about 24 hours to keep Drogue (and others) happy. If noone objects now, then the last chance will be the "Write-In" option. The poll will be accepted as "legal" unless Xenobanana and Write-In poll a combined 50% or more, in which case a new poll will be formed with new options. In the case that no one option achieves a clear marjority of 50% or more, the highest TWO options will be placed in a run-off poll with winner takes all.

Would that be OK?

-Jam

[Drogue]

First you need a poll for the time limit. We never had a poll to decide if 24 hours is right, and I for one disagree. That poll you have leaves out the option I want, that after 24 hours you are given a warning (by PM), and after 36/48 hours the turn is played by GooglieGod given the information he has on the private forum. It is not unreasonable for someone not to go on the internet for a day, especially in the middle of exam season (here at least) and with some teams only haveing a few members who can play the turn, it is entirely feasable that 24 hours will not be enough. Especially if it is later in the game, with a longer turn.

Please poll first for time limits. Should it be:

• less than 18
• 18 hours
• 24 hours
• 36 hours
• 48 hours
• more than 48

Then you can either take one that is a clear majority (over 50%) and repoll the top two if none are, or better IMHO is to take the average, so if 5 people chose 48, and 4 people chose 18, then it ends up about 30.

Also, make sure there is "official" in the title, and in the old constitution, changes to the rules required 2/3 support.

[Jamski]

Sure, that makes sense

So we have these questions to sort out :

• What is the time limit?
• Do we punish when the time limit expires, or do we warn only at this time and punish 12 hours later?
• How many warnings/how do we deal with repeat offences?
• How strict are the punishments?

That'll only take 4 polls.

I think for all these questions we should take clear marjority (50%+) or repoll the first two. Once these are decide it will take 2/3rds marjority to change them. Yes?

-Jam