Was G&K worth buying?

[mkorin]

Notice the verb was, and the third choice. Don't vote no just because you think it will be bad.

[OzzyKP]

Religion is a lot of fun.

If you liked Civ5 then you definitely need to get G&H.

If you hated Civ5... religion and the city states improvements certainly improve the game, but nothing in the expansion improved the game enough to overcome its flaws.

[MxM]

>but nothing in the expansion improved the game enough to overcome its flaws.

Except that the main complain was about tactical AI, and there they made great improvements.

The game feels different now, it lost its linear feeling of Civ V. I definitely can say that this is what Civ V meant to be. This is the first time I felt lost in options, not because this game is new, but there are many of them and lots of interesting decisions to make.

At the same time I played only about half a game, so, I may change my mind after few more games, but right now it feels better than Civ IV. Yeah, I said it. Religions arguably implemented BETTER than in civ IV, espionage is about the same, but I do like it a bit better here, without having extra units to deal with and with aspects of city states. Diplomacy I am not sure about, since I played limited number of games, but intrigue brings quite interesting aspect, so I would say that it is about the same as in Civ IV (I hated the impact of religions on diplomacy in Civ IV - it felt so artificial, not so in Civ V). What else? I do like combat now more than in Civ IV. The only thing which is missing is corporation, but hey, this is just first expansion. Instead of corporations, Civ V has city states, which is now really, really fun to play with.

So, kudos to Firaxis team, I think they pulled that off!

[Burticus]

Yes from what little I have been able to play of it. But was it worth $26 after the full retail price I paid for Civ V already? Logically no, but it's been a couple years so the pain of that transaction has worn off a bit.

Now the smart people waited and picked up the full editions for $10 or whatever on Steam then got G&K.

[Proteus_MST]

You forgot a fourth choice:
"I preordered Civ V via Steam, but thanks to Steam releasing the DLC later if you don´t live in the USA, I cannot play it yet"

[OneFootInTheGrave]

What's interesting that this attempt to get another 30$ from gamers for allegedly fixed Civ Rev II does not even pique my interest to check it out, is quite remarkable after being excited by all things Civ, SMAC and CTP for about 20 years...

I am not even curious!

[OzzyKP]

What's interesting that this attempt to get another 30$ from gamers for allegedly fixed Civ Rev II does not even pique my interest to check it out, is quite remarkable after being excited by all things Civ, SMAC and CTP for about 20 years...

I am not even curious!

Only $22 with the Apolyton discount!

[gdijedi7]

Worth buying?

Yes. For me, Gods and Kings is very fun.

Of course, I actually liked Civ5. Like I liked Godzilla 98 and the movie for Voyage of the Dawn Treader while everyone else in the respective fandoms detest both.

[sunny24m]

I have puchased it and it is quite worth buying....

[Ming]

For those that have it, here is a chance for you to have gotten the game for free....

http://apolyton.net/showthread.php/1...n-V-Gods-Kings!

Just write a review and post it... you can be a winner

[mkorin]

>but nothing in the expansion improved the game enough to overcome its flaws.

Except that the main complain was about tactical AI, and there they made great improvements.

The game feels different now, it lost its linear feeling of Civ V. I definitely can say that this is what Civ V meant to be. This is the first time I felt lost in options, not because this game is new, but there are many of them and lots of interesting decisions to make.

So, kudos to Firaxis team, I think they pulled that off!

Having now played two games. I have to agree with the above. This is how Civ IV should have been from the start. Not only did they add a couple major things, but they fixed a lot of minor programming issues that drove me crazy. The game is a lot more fun. If they waited and released this, we wouldn't have been *****ing for the last year.

Mike

[Lambiorix_be]

Yes

[Adagio]

So far I'm still in the first game and enjoys it. I'm player on a lower level as usual, so I can spend more energy in learning the new religion and spy systems. I'm playing as Maya (the name of my wife is Mayann, so it seemed like a good civ to start with ), who gets a nice religion bonus from the start of the game

To be honest my first game (which I quit very early) was at a higher level, but I was surprised how fast the AI got faith. Most of the AI's had gotten patheon (or however it's spelled) within no time, they all had gotten it before I even had my first faith and I was aiming to get faith as fast as possible

[Ijuin]

A couple of civilizations are able to generate Faith before they can build Shrines--for example, the Celts get 1 free Faith per turn from having unimproved Forests within their city's territory.

Second, they may have gained Faith from exploring. One of the possible rewards from "goody huts" is a lump sum of faith points. Also, when you meet a Religious City-State, they will give you a few Faith points as a gift up front.

[Adagio]

I can understand that, but it just seemed weird that 9+ civs got enough faith before I got my first faith