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  • #16
    This sounds horrible. So if we jointly research automobiles but 50 years later we go to war then suddenly everyone forgets how to build cars? What a crock of ****.
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    • #17
      Now, now. Let's not jump to conclusions just yet. Previews have been wrong on details before.
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      • #18
        The T34 was the best MBT of WWII.
        We need seperate human-only games for MP/PBEM that dont include the over-simplifications required to have a good AI
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        • #19
          Originally posted by Oerdin View Post
          This sounds horrible. So if we jointly research automobiles but 50 years later we go to war then suddenly everyone forgets how to build cars? What a crock of ****.
          Lot of hearsay and assumption going on. I'm pretty sure it'll just be if you go to war with them during the research, you'll each lose your partner's half (or percentage?) of the research. At least, that's how I read it, and really it makes way more sense as a game mechanic.

          Seriously, what would be the point of two civs going to war if they're both going to lose technologies they've already researched? If you're splitting a tech, then you go to war with each other, wouldn't both have to lose it?
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          • #20
            Lets try to keep logic out of the discussion please.
            We need seperate human-only games for MP/PBEM that dont include the over-simplifications required to have a good AI
            If any man be thirsty, let him come unto me and drink. Vampire 7:37
            Just one old soldiers opinion. E Tenebris Lux. Pax quaeritur bello.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by SpencerH View Post
              Lets try to keep logic out of the discussion please.
              Yeah... let's stick to pure speculation and uninformed opinions. Logic has NOTHING to do with this at all.

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              • #22
                Exactly! Imagine the nerve. Our cognitive processes here on Apolyton are much more attuned to creative intuition and leaping to conclusions by virtue of exercising disassociative thinking instead of such vulgar, plebian concepts as logic and reason.

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                • #23
                  Don't use logic to defend our lack of it's use.
                  It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
                  RIP Tony Bogey & Baron O

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                  • #24
                    I think this is the first time on Poly that I've ever been accused of using "logic".
                    "I predict your ignore will rival Ben's" - Ecofarm
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                    • #25
                      We won't make that mistake again!
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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by The Emperor Fabulous View Post
                        I think this is the first time on Poly that I've ever been accused of using "logic".
                        Are you offended?
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                        • #27
                          How can somebody actually be offended by something said on the internet?
                          Keep on Civin'
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                          • #28
                            How would Poly survive if people wasn't?
                            Do not fear, for I am with you; Do not anxiously look about you, for I am your God.-Isaiah 41:10
                            I praise you because I am fearfully and wonderfully made - Psalms 139.14a
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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Nikolai View Post
                              How would Poly survive if people wasn't?
                              This is an abuse of English grammar!

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by The Emperor Fabulous View Post
                                Lot of hearsay and assumption going on. I'm pretty sure it'll just be if you go to war with them during the research, you'll each lose your partner's half (or percentage?) of the research. At least, that's how I read it, and really it makes way more sense as a game mechanic.

                                Seriously, what would be the point of two civs going to war if they're both going to lose technologies they've already researched? If you're splitting a tech, then you go to war with each other, wouldn't both have to lose it?
                                What I think is meant is that you lose all research towards the advance that you are CURRENTLY researching. A "research pact" would be an agreement to work together towards specific advances (e.g. Automobile). If you break the pact before Automobile is achieved, then you lose all progress toward it. Upon achieving Automobile, both civilizations will gain the advance, and the pact expires, having been fulfilled. The pact would not be an open-ended agreement that lasts indefinitely, but only until the agreed-to-research advances are achieved.
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