Play the World: Latest Update?

[Gatekeeper]

Everyone:

What's the latest on this coming over to the Macintosh platform? It's the missing element I need before I plunk down $2,700 for a new computer, printer, and software (sans rebates). The other gaming elements are already there — Civ III and the Mac-specific Civ III editor — so all I need now is PtW.

I want to continue my Civ gaming experience on the Macintosh! Don't force me to turn to the dark side!

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[dojoboy]

I just got off the phone w/ MacSoft's Corporate office, and there is currently no discussion taking place on a PTW mac port.

[Gatekeeper]

That's not good news. As I've said before and I'll say again: I am *NOT* forking over thousands of dollars for a computer system that can't even support the *one* game I enjoy. Namely, Civilization. Furthermore, the latest iMacs being shipped no longer can boot into the Classic mode, either, so that keeps me from playing Civ II, no?

Fine. I can take my discretionary income elsewhere. Where's Asher? I need to ask about PC system specs ...

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[CivPatriot]

Originally posted by Gatekeeper
That's not good news. As I've said before and I'll say again: I am *NOT* forking over thousands of dollars for a computer system that can't even support the *one* game I enjoy. Namely, Civilization. Furthermore, the latest iMacs being shipped no longer can boot into the Classic mode, either, so that keeps me from playing Civ II, no?

Fine. I can take my discretionary income elsewhere. Where's Asher? I need to ask about PC system specs ...

Gatekeeper

you should still be able to run classic through OS X(I do not know how well Civ2 works in classic mode, since i'm having a hard time finding a copy since i switched), all you have to have is OS 9 installed on the hard drive and OS X will run it through classic mode, which as far as i am aware works with just about everything now.

But as far as being able to directly boot into OS 9, i do not think you can do that now no. But everything that you do need OS 9 for should be able to run it through classic. Like i said i have not tried Civ2 in classic, has anyone?

[CivPatriot]

found a thread in the Civ2 mac forums that may be useful to you about how well Civ2 works in classic mode under OS X

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=67748

hope it will be of use you Gatekeeper

[Gatekeeper]

I have to admit to a bit of confusion in regards to the Classic mode of operations under OS 10.2.4. If you need a copy of OS 9.x in order for X to operate in Classic, that in itself would be a challenge, as I don't think it's very easy to find copies of OS 9.

It'd be better if Classic were an integral part of X w/o having to have a copy of OS 9 on hand.

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[CivPatriot]

I agreee that Classic should have been better integrated into OS X. Up to Dec of last year(before the no boot into os 9 thing) OS 9 came preloaded onto mac systems(with a copy of it on a Cd), now i have no idea if apple is still doing that to provide classic compatibility or not.

[Gatekeeper]

Yep. All the Macs shipping now are X exclusive. Apparently Jobs, et al., are trying to kill off the OS 9 diehards by no longer giving them the option of having that as a backup of sorts to X. Crappy thing is, there are a number of good programs out there that do not have X equivalents yet.

Hell, I might have to keep my old iMac if I ever get a new iMac, simply so I can play Civ II on it.

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[Coxy]

Not only will new iMacs still boot into OS 9, but Civ II plays perfectly well under Classic.

OS 9 Install CDs are a dime a dozen on eBay, and IIRC they're $20 from Apple.

[Gatekeeper]

Huh. I was told that Apple was no longer shipping iMacs that way ... they came *only* with 10.2.x on them and *nothing* else. Is Classic a part of the 10.2.x?

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[FlameFlash]

All I know is Coxy is right... OS 9.2 is on sale at the Apple site for $20... they just don't ship it with X.2 anymore.

[FlameFlash]

I thought PTW was coming to the Mac... what changed that?

[CivPatriot]

Classic is an optional part of OS X that allows you to run OS 9 applicaitons through OS 9 in OS X. It reqiures that you have OS 9 installed on your system with OS X. As long as it is installed, you are able to run your OS 9 or ealier applications through OS X with out having to boot into 9. It works pretty well with most pre-OSX applcations.

and i also thought that we were going to get PTW, what happened?

[Gatekeeper]

I don't know, but perhaps dojoboy will pop back in with the latest information.

Gatekeeper

[dojoboy]

Originally posted by FlameFlash
I thought PTW was coming to the Mac... what changed that?

Ironically, the purchase of MacSoft by Destineer altered the future. IIRC, Infogrames gave MacSoft the before the deal w/ Destineer. Now, under "new" management, MacSoft has shelved plans for a PTW port.



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