Civ 1 - the sweet memories

[Solver]

Aaglo, the AI didn't deserve a chance to attack back then . Wish Civ 1 had the AI of Civ 3

[Method]

you should have seen me playing civ in the beginning. i was less that 10 years old and how i played civ was:

step 1: Found capitol city
step 2: build militia for 4000 years because i didn't realise that you could change what you build.

i don't remember exactly what happened but one day i just had a revelation and found out i could actually build other things and even make "that coloured stuff" (irrigation) that the AI had around its cities around my city.

i learned though and i bought civ II which i actually won. then came SMAC, and a brief and horridly disturbing period of civ III (worst $50 i ever spent).

[Solver]

Ahh, if you really played Civ 1, you would understand how horrid civ 2 was... BTW, as far as I'm aware, as long as a 10 year old reads the manual, he can play the game pretty nicely.

[dunk]

Originally posted by Solver
Cannons weren't as good as the Catapults then. Catapults could do anything for you, right till Musketeers, the Cannon just had too low of a defense for this age... Knights were the requirement. I don't agree with people who said don't research Chivalry.

I used cannon all the time. 8 attack vs 3? defense for the musketman. Better than 4 vs 3. Plus, cannon and knights cost 40 shields each. I say, no brainer. Build the cannon. Catapults also were 40 shields.

[Solver]

Remember that the Musketeers never defended at 3. It would almost always be 4.5 due to 50% fortified bonus, and when having the damn hills 100% bonus, 8 vs. 9.

[Juggler]

F-19 Stealth Fighter was made by Microprose, I believe. There were some demos on it, so I had to try them out, of course.

F-19 was a damn good game back then. I used to play it on my old 486 together with GP-EGA, DukeNukem1, Xatax and such. The graphics and explosions sucked but at least it lured me to my computer for 4 years. After that I slowly started to like a game called Civ1.
etc.

[Method]

Originally posted by Solver
Ahh, if you really played Civ 1, you would understand how horrid civ 2 was... BTW, as far as I'm aware, as long as a 10 year old reads the manual, he can play the game pretty nicely.

true, but i don't think i had the manual. the game just 'appeared' on the computer one day for no apparent reason.

[Solver]

true, but i don't think i had the manual. the game just 'appeared' on the computer one day for no apparent reason.

Those days, I wasn't even aware game manuals exist , I got the game with my CD-ROM package (I bought a CD+soundcard for the incredible price of ~42 $ then, thanks to knowing ppl ), but I read all that Help had to say, and started to understand stuff.

[DaveV]

Originally posted by dunk999
I used cannon all the time. 8 attack vs 3? defense for the musketman. Better than 4 vs 3. Plus, cannon and knights cost 40 shields each. I say, no brainer. Build the cannon. Catapults also were 40 shields.

I remember one epic battle I fought against the Zulus where they were using cannon stacked together with riflemen. They were holding their own against my tanks, especially in rough terrain.

[dunk]

Originally posted by Solver
Remember that the Musketeers never defended at 3. It would almost always be 4.5 due to 50% fortified bonus, and when having the damn hills 100% bonus, 8 vs. 9.

And you preferred knights going against this to cannon?

I'll assume a vet cannon. 12 attack vs 9. With a vet musket... 12 vs 13.5.

And a vet knight. 6 attack vs 9 or 13.5.

13.5 comes from:

3 + 50% (veteran bonus) = 4.5.

4.5 + 50% (fortified bonus) = 6.75

6.75 + 100% (hills bonus) = 13.5

Gimme cannon!

[Method]

i remember that for the longest time, the cursor could only access half the screen. it would just get "stuck" in the middle like there was an invisible barrier . thus i could never get into the civilopedia and other menus on the right side of the screen

[Mr. Oobir]

Has anyone here ever played the SNES version of Civilization? That's the version of the game that absorbed a lot of my 4th- and 5th-grade life. I can still hum the game's "Ancient" theme and baroque-ish tech discovery music...

I didn't play the game on any level other than chieftain, even when I could beat the game blindfolded and sitting on my head (I felt so proud when I conquered the world with the Japanese in 2880 BC!). Even on that most brain-dead of difficulties, I remember a rather odd case of AI superiority. Again, I was playing as the Japanese, and the rate of technology discovery was chugging along quite nicely. I had only six cities or so a bit after the BC times ended, and I'd only defeated one small civ near the beginning of the game, but I was doing all right. I was sailing out a boat (maybe a frigate) when I came upon a French ironclad. I had never seen this ship before, so I attacked it. My boat was destroyed. It didn't make sense; I was supposed to be the dominant player. A little while later, the French invaded. They had riflemen and tanks. Tanks! And Napolean wouldn't negotiate with me, so I had to try and defend my handful of cities with my slow and distant cannons. My musketeers were slaughtered, and my civ was near collapse, until I made a sudden shift of tactics.

I hit the SNES's power switch. Whew! Crisis averted

[Ecthy]

Sounds familiar. Even on easiest level, there can be a quite successful AI civ.

[khyron]

Civilization. First time I played it, I was at a friend's house back in...the day. Can't remember when, but back when the game was new. He had a computer, and some cool games. Showed me Civ. I only played it a couple times, and I never did get it, but it fascinated me, and I would play it at other friends' houses over the subsequent years.

Forward to 1996. As a graduation present, my uncle gave me an old 386 with a grand total of 2MB of RAM. Wasn't much, but when you go from nothing to that, you're amazed, even by Windows 3.1. That first night, my best friend and I tried to get AOL installed, because it had a 9600 baud modem, but AOL needed 4MB. Then we had an idea. Somebody had given me a copy of Civ against the day that I would get my own computer. Out it came. We played for hours, first with me at the helm. I can't remember who we were, but we had the Russians on the continent to the south. At 2am, I had to nap, and my friend took the conn. He started a war with Russia and was rather successful at it. And at 3am, he woke me up to let me know we had a carrier loaded with nukes and a transport full of armor off the coast of Moscow. In violation of treaty, we pounded four Russian cities with nukes. I told him to land troops in Moscow to split them up. It worked! Egypt was born! So we moved on to the next nuked Russian city, and wham! Another schism! The whole face of that game changed from there, with Mother Russia who once threatened us so badly put in her place for all eternity, and we had a blast till we both died at dawn.

Nostalgia....

[Jac de Molay]

Played mine on a Tandy 286 Laptop. Thought it was the coolest thing since sliced bread.

Dave