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  • #31
    That'd be a question for Brad, but I'm sure he can't say much officially.

    I guess I'm just stunned at how badly Macsoft has fumbled the football on this one. They had to know that the moment it became known to Mac game players that they weren't certain about bringing any of the Civ III XPs over to the Mac that word would damage sales of Civ III Mac itself. It's a vicious circle. They should just commit to C3C (hopefully with PtW nations), advertise that fact blatantly, and go from there.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Gatekeeper
      That'd be a question for Brad, but I'm sure he can't say much officially.
      Here is a post by Brad Oliver made this morning at CFC:

      Originally posted by Brad Oliver
      Re: Small early-warning voice

      I think it'll all depend on how well Conquests does on the PC side. If it sells significantly better than PTW (which honestly shouldn't be too hard) then I don't think Mac users will have too much to worry about.
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      • #33
        Originally posted by dojoboy


        You're partly correct. Its been hinted at that sales were low, but not for Mac Civ3. It appears sales have been low for PTW, which is why MacSoft is non-committal on a PTW port. Now, if C3C moves off the shelves quickly and en mass, which I have a feeling it will, we may see it ported to the Mac.

        Also, over at CFC, a high number of mac players have been taking part in the GOTM which features the PTW civs and improvements. If I was MacSoft, I would think a port of PTW could capitalize on the interest.

        I guess the thing that confuses me is, shouldn't an expansion be icing on the cake? I mean, how much new code is necessary?
        Are they even surfing the forums though? I agree that it probably wouldn't take that much work now that they have Civ3 ported, but I think it would be putting enough time into it, assigning somebody, that kind of thing.

        Plus, I doubt that too many of those on MacSoft even notice about game forums.

        That'd be a question for Brad, but I'm sure he can't say much officially.

        I guess I'm just stunned at how badly Macsoft has fumbled the football on this one. They had to know that the moment it became known to Mac game players that they weren't certain about bringing any of the Civ III XPs over to the Mac that word would damage sales of Civ III Mac itself. It's a vicious circle. They should just commit to C3C (hopefully with PtW nations), advertise that fact blatantly, and go from there.

        Gatekeeper
        Maybe include both Conquests and PTW in one easy to install package? That, I like. I just have my doubts they'll do it.
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        • #34
          Thanks dojo... but does that mean we'll get Conquests and not PTW or will we get both?
          I'm not conceited, conceit is a fault and I have no faults...

          Civ and WoW are my crack... just one... more... turn...

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          • #35
            Originally posted by FlameFlash
            Thanks dojo... but does that mean we'll get Conquests and not PTW or will we get both?
            Interesting question? PTW is included in the C3C release. So, everyone who bought PTW will get it again if they buy C3C. Now, I assume that means if there is a Mac port of C3C, then PTW also will be included.
            "What did you learn in school today, dear little boy of mine?
            I learned our government must be strong. It's always right and never wrong,.....that's what I learned in school."
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            • #36
              Cool.

              Now the question is, why in the world would they include PTW in the C3C release in the first place? Not that I'm complaining, but still an odd thing.
              I'm not conceited, conceit is a fault and I have no faults...

              Civ and WoW are my crack... just one... more... turn...

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              • #37
                dojoboy, FlameFlash:

                Brad's always been a straight-shooter, so I suppose all we can do is maintain the faith. But, hey, I stumble now and then.

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                • #38
                  hi ,

                  for those of you who really want to play games and have only a mac , get a dual OS install at booth level , .....

                  have a nice apple day
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                  • #39
                    I did that a while to play Civ2: Test of Time and SMAC/SMAX. Eventually I went and got myself SMAC/SMAX for Mac because the slowdown of first having to emulate Windows and then having to emulate running the games was too much a slow-down.
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                    Civ and WoW are my crack... just one... more... turn...

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                    • #40
                      Another comment by Brad Oliver, at CFC, in response to a question posted by n8mac re: MP.

                      Originally posted by n8mac
                      So if Conquests does get ported and since it will include ptw, do you think that during the possible port that a mac - mac multiplayer feature will be inserted?
                      Originally posted by Brad Oliver
                      Multiplayer is such a huge feature that there's no way it'd be left out. In fact, it'd be harder to strip the multiplayer code out than to leave it in.
                      Something to dream about, eh?
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                      I learned our government must be strong. It's always right and never wrong,.....that's what I learned in school."
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                      • #41
                        Dream yes, reassuring, no.
                        I'm not conceited, conceit is a fault and I have no faults...

                        Civ and WoW are my crack... just one... more... turn...

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                        • #42
                          Any more word on this, or a recommendation as to where to look to find out/research?
                          I'm not conceited, conceit is a fault and I have no faults...

                          Civ and WoW are my crack... just one... more... turn...

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by FlameFlash
                            Any more word on this, or a recommendation as to where to look to find out/research?
                            hi ,

                            , there was a thread about a year ago on poly that explained it all in detail , however "search" does not seem to find it , ......

                            have a nice day
                            - RES NON VERBA - DE OPRESSO LIBER - VERITAS ET LIBERTAS - O TOLMON NIKA - SINE PARI - VIGLIA PRETIUM LIBERTAS - SI VIS PACEM , PARA BELLUM -
                            - LEGIO PATRIA NOSTRA - one shot , one kill - freedom exists only in a book - everything you always wanted to know about special forces - everything you always wanted to know about Israel - what Dabur does in his free time , ... - in french - “Become an anti-Semitic teacher for 5 Euro only.”
                            WHY DOES ISRAEL NEED A SECURITY FENCE --- join in an exceptional demo game > join here forum is now open ! - the new civ Conquest screenshots > go see them UPDATED 07.11.2003 ISRAEL > crisis or challenge ?

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                            • #44
                              i am thinking of buying a powerbook, but one of my conditions is that c3c is playable on it (pathetic, isn't it ).

                              but as i read from this thread it sounds highly unlikely and there's no more than rumors around.

                              when civ3 was released: did they say from beginning on, that it would come out on mac or was it more like "of, by the way, we made a build for mac too"?


                              hey, if enough people consider buying a mac for the same stupid reasons as me, apple may even finance c3c
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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by sabrewolf

                                but as i read from this thread it sounds highly unlikely and there's no more than rumors around.
                                Don't buy the power book for Conquests, because there is no definite whether we're getting it; depends on how well the PC version sells.
                                "What did you learn in school today, dear little boy of mine?
                                I learned our government must be strong. It's always right and never wrong,.....that's what I learned in school."
                                --- Tom Paxton song ('63)

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