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  • #16
    Snail mail is no guarantee, either.

    At the newspaper I work at, we receive a lot of "form letters" (mainly from partisan political types) with a constituent's signature. The letters say the same thing almost verbatim, with only the signature being different. We publish the letters, but they get *last* priority over those who can write their own thoughts w/o having to rely on some party appartchik to do their thinking for them.

    If something like that arrives in Macsoft's mailboxes, they might ignore it as well. So the only way to get their attention may be to make phone calls and/or write long, stylized and personalized letters (preferably in calligraphy in blue ink on real parchment). Either that or we can get a for-hire interest group to "inform" them of their "constituents'" concerns.

    My point? It's probably not worth the time or effort. If a well-intentioned effort is automatically viewed as spam and nothing more than form letters with signatures, then it's Apple's loss (and, indirectly, Macsoft's), Microsoft's gain.

    Gatekeeper
    "I may not agree with what you have to say, but I'll die defending your right to say it." — Voltaire

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    • #18
      Brad explained why he thought it was a bad idea on another forum. To paraphrase him loosely, the decision to port Mac games is traditionally made by the success of a PC game, from which a calculation can be made as to how successful a Mac port would be. You can read what you want into the absence of even a development announcement at this point.

      In addition, an email campaign could be annoying, and quite possibly have the effect of seeming to have little popular support, if not enough people wrote in.

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      • #19
        Hmm ... well, from what I understand, the PC release of PtW wasn't a bomb by any means.

        Gatekeeper
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        • #20
          Originally posted by Gatekeeper
          Hmm ... well, from what I understand, the PC release of PtW wasn't a bomb by any means.
          Have you seen the sales figures?
          Brad Oliver
          bradman AT pobox DOT com

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          • #21
            If it wasn't doing badly it should.
            Civ 3 is utter crap, not the fault of the mac porters to be sure, from what I've seen they've done well (and they've been a lot more forthcomming when it comes to contributing on the boards than firaxis ever was). The Game is flawed to begin with however and nothing can change that.

            I'm still playing civ2, which even with the comming of PTW has loads of more features especially when it comes to MP and Scenario building...
            No Fighting here, this is the war room!

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            • #22
              Well, this thread has been a bit discouraging. What I thought would be a positive effort, is seen as a negative all the way around by many. In fact, MacGamer Forums banned me, permanently, for the same thread. They do have no petitions listed plainly above their forums. It just didn't register. Oh well, I've just had to become somebody else.
              "What did you learn in school today, dear little boy of mine?
              I learned our government must be strong. It's always right and never wrong,.....that's what I learned in school."
              --- Tom Paxton song ('63)

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              • #23
                Originally posted by bradman
                Have you seen the sales figures?
                No. I take it that PtW did *bomb* on the PC after all, sales-wise?

                Gatekeeper
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                • #24
                  Originally posted by dojoboy
                  Well, this thread has been a bit discouraging. What I thought would be a positive effort, is seen as a negative all the way around by many. In fact, MacGamer Forums banned me, permanently, for the same thread. They do have no petitions listed plainly above their forums. It just didn't register. Oh well, I've just had to become somebody else.
                  Why'd they react so severely? Have they had problems with petition campaigns in the past?

                  Gatekeeper
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                  "Wheresoever you go, go with all your heart." — Confucius

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                  • #25
                    Well, I thought it was a good idea too, dojo...

                    /me shrugs...

                    So I suppose all we can do is sit and wait and hope?
                    I'm not conceited, conceit is a fault and I have no faults...

                    Civ and WoW are my crack... just one... more... turn...

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                    • #27
                      Originally posted by panag

                      could you post them for us
                      No, companies consider that to be confidential information, and sadly I'm in no position to share that info without getting my ass sued off. Txurce made a good post though.
                      Brad Oliver
                      bradman AT pobox DOT com

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                      • #28
                        Originally posted by bradman


                        No, companies consider that to be confidential information, and sadly I'm in no position to share that info without getting my ass sued off. Txurce made a good post though.
                        hi ,

                        well if they are so higly confidental then what would you do if one would go to the public county offices , ....

                        and a company who does that is not transparent , ......

                        how where one to believe for example what is a good product or not , .....

                        what about investors , ....

                        they might consider it "confidential" yet they are missing out on a huge amount of marketing , ......... & pr , ....

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                        • #29
                          Originally posted by panag

                          well if they are so higly confidental then what would you do if one would go to the public county offices , ....
                          If I understand you, I don't think that will help.

                          and a company who does that is not transparent , ......

                          how where one to believe for example what is a good product or not , .....

                          what about investors , ....

                          they might consider it "confidential" yet they are missing out on a huge amount of marketing , ......... & pr , ....
                          I'm afraid I don't understand.

                          Did I mention Txurce's post? He seems like a pretty smart guy.
                          Brad Oliver
                          bradman AT pobox DOT com

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                          • #30
                            Originally posted by bradman
                            Did I mention Txurce's post? He seems like a pretty smart guy.
                            I'm hurt Brad, you've never said anything like that about me.

                            Okay, sales of PTW obviously had to be good enough for Firaxis to decide on another Civ3 expansion. Right?
                            "What did you learn in school today, dear little boy of mine?
                            I learned our government must be strong. It's always right and never wrong,.....that's what I learned in school."
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