Eight New Hoplite Units

[Kryten]

Persian Hired Hoplite
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(I think that someone is already creating a ‘Mercenary Hoplite’, and I didn’t want to steal the name, so I’ve called this one a “Hired Hoplite” instead)
The famous Immortals were destroyed by the Athenians and Spartans at the battle of Plataea in 479 BC, and were never reformed. Instead, the Persians used their vast wealth to hire the best troops around at that time….Greek Mercenary Hoplites.

[Kryten]

Suggested stats for the Hired Hoplite:
2-3-1, requires iron, and costs 40 (if the “Subjugated Hoplite” costs 30, then this unit should cost a bit more).

[Kryten]

....last of all, here is a cut down units_32 file which only contains the above units.
You can cut & paste this on to your existing units_32 file, or, if you are unable to do this, then may I suggest downloading the units_32 file created by Zulu9812 (which contains over 600 player created unit icons!).
This can be found here…..

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?threadid=35648

[Kryten]

You know, in reality, the Persian Immortal was never as good as Civ3 portrays them. Here is a brief history of this unit:-
First, they were formed about 530 BC, and disappeared after 479 BC, so only existed for some 50 years (or just two Civ3 turns!).
Second, there were just 10,000 of them, no more, no less. This is less than 5% of the total Persian army.
Third, they were destroyed by Athenian & Spartan Hoplites.
Lastly, rather than reforming them, the Persians hired Greek Hoplites instead.
When Alexander the Great invaded Asia Minor in 334 BC for example, he faced some 20,000 Mercenary Hoplites at the battle of Granicus, and 30,000 a year later at the battle of Issus, but NO ‘Immortals’, because they had disappeared almost 150 years earlier.

Soooo…..how did the Greeks defeat them, why were they not rebuilt, and why did the Persians use mercenaries instead?
The answer is obvious….Greek Mercenary Hoplites WERE BETTER!!!
Personally, I think Immortals should be 2-2-1, +1 hit point, cost 50, and have a defensive bombardment of 2 or 3 with a range of zero (in reality they were armed with spears + bows. It’s hard to see, but if you look closely the Civ3 Immortal actually carries a bow case on his back).

Having said that, I very much doubt that I can persuade anyone to downgrade their favourite ancient Civ3 unit just because it’s more realistic!
(“Oh well….at least you tried Kryten, at least you tried”)

[Aidun]

Great work Kryten, I like your hoplites!

BTW, you're right about Alexander and mercenary hoplites they were better, but that was not because they were such strong soldiers, but because they fought in a phalanx. It should so be able to build armies in the ancient times in wich just hoplites can be put, but that couses some work. Perhaps you know how to do that? I don't.

[AroSch]

Re: Eight New Hoplite Units

Originally posted by Kryten
Here is a bunch of new Hoplite units for Exsanguination’s “Alexander the Great” scenario. They are nothing much, just simple modifications of the Civ3 Hoplite.

Yeah, I like this units, even they are just "simple" modifications.