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    Are flat maps possible with the new patch? If so, how do I do it? If not, when will this option be added to Civ3?
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  • #2
    No they're not, you need a save game editor and I don't know.
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    • #3
      PtW probably, and you can use Gramps' CMT to make a map flat.

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      • #4
        you CAN make flat-maps, but only through putting alternate columns (1 tile wide) of mountains and oceans on the edges of the map - it will be almost totally impossible (unless you nuke the mountains down or fly helicopters over them - but who ever does THAT?) to wrap around the map then.

        this is a very poor fix in terms of historical accuracy, but it will make a flat map for you.
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        • #5
          Can you nuke mountains down?
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          • #6
            Originally posted by FrustratedPoet
            you CAN make flat-maps, but only through putting alternate columns (1 tile wide) of mountains and oceans on the edges of the map - it will be almost totally impossible (unless you nuke the mountains down or fly helicopters over them - but who ever does THAT?) to wrap around the map then.

            this is a very poor fix in terms of historical accuracy, but it will make a flat map for you.
            Like I said, or you can just use the CMT which automatically makes a 'real' flat map.

            And no, mountains can't be blased by nukes.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Trip

              Like I said, or you can just use the CMT which automatically makes a 'real' flat map.

              And no, mountains can't be blased by nukes.
              I am curious.
              How can CMT do that?
              Is there some hidden flag in BIC file or what?

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              • #8
                Originally posted by player1
                I am curious.
                How can CMT do that?
                Is there some hidden flag in BIC file or what?
                I'm not sure, you'll have to ask Gramps about that.

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                • #9
                  Does the multi-tool work with 1.29? I hadnt checked and had assumed it wouldnt Or has he already released a new version

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                  • #10
                    Hey, it's Gramphos you're talking about, of course he already has a new version! I'm not sure if it has all the features working yet though, I haven't tried everything.

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                    • #11
                      This whole flat map thing is so confusing. Putting aside the question of why it is not included in the 1.29 editor, I have tried to use the new version of the CMT tool but the results were quite wierd.

                      I am not exactly sure as to what "flat map" means in the CMT tool. I ran it on a test map and heres what happened (note: the map was all grassland).

                      1. Ran new scenario with fog of war (blackness) in place. When clicked on edge of mini-map the game crashed.

                      2. Restarted and daved the same scenario and cleared fog of war and now the game works fine......however I could walk all the way around and the other civs did the same thing and established cities (going past the end of map border).

                      I wonder is it something I am doing wrong or is the new CMT tool not working with the latest bic files when it comes to flat maps.

                      Overall, however, I must congratulate the CMT creator(s) for giving us such great tools.

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                      • #12
                        The mountain + ocean solution doesn't really produce a Flat Map - it produces a Round Map that you cannot sail, drive or walk around. This is a huge difference when it comes to corruption and such - the city distance will be calculated differently.
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                        • #13
                          Corruption...that will have to be altered on big flat map scns (like Europe). The way it is now is 'world' standard, wouldn't be realistic.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by NeoStar
                            Corruption...that will have to be altered on big flat map scns (like Europe). The way it is now is 'world' standard, wouldn't be realistic.
                            hehe have your capital in portugal and bulgaria has virtually no corruption, because it's just a few tiles away
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