AI and Governments

[Dom Pedro II]

Now, I know the AI has a tendency to go with whatever government comes along on the tech tree, but if a government is truly BAD, will they shy away from it. If I were to make a modern era government that was just TERRIBLE, would the AI still switch to it anyway?

[Saint Marcus]

unsure. But you can make the AI shun that particular governement by changing the civs in the editor.

[lockstep]

While I can't comment on the AI's reaction to 'terrible' governments, I know for sure that if you create a 'super' government, every AI will switch to it eventually. This was the case with 'Fascism' in korn's blitz mod (trade bonus, no war weariness, high unit support, nuisance corruption).

[player1]

Trade bonus, plus high unit support always makes uber governmens (--> best research).

And if you remove war weariness...

[lockstep]

Currently I'm tinkering with some Fascist government ideas. E.g. trade bonus, no war weariness, low unit support (e.g. 1/2/4), support costs of 2, rampant corruption, forced labor. Should be a good choice for small war-mongering nations.

BTW, low unit support and support costs of 2 would also be appropriate for Republic and Democracy IMO. Small military = save money compared to the standard setting. Large military = put a real strain on your economy.

[Willem]

Re: AI and Governments

Originally posted by Dom Pedro II
Now, I know the AI has a tendency to go with whatever government comes along on the tech tree, but if a government is truly BAD, will they shy away from it. If I were to make a modern era government that was just TERRIBLE, would the AI still switch to it anyway?

If you go to "Civilizations" in the editor, you will find a couple of areas you can adjust for each civ. One is their preferred gov, the other is the one they will avoid if they're given a choice.

[player1]

Originally posted by lockstep
Currently I'm tinkering with some Fascist government ideas. E.g. trade bonus, no war weariness, low unit support (e.g. 1/2/4), support costs of 2, rampant corruption, forced labor. Should be a good choice for small war-mongering nations.

BTW, low unit support and support costs of 2 would also be appropriate for Republic and Democracy IMO. Small military = save money compared to the standard setting. Large military = put a real strain on your economy.

Looks to much uber for me.

Only bad thing compared to Republic or Demo is pop rushing.

[player1]

Re: Re: AI and Governments

Originally posted by Willem


If you go to "Civilizations" in the editor, you will find a couple of areas you can adjust for each civ. One is their preferred gov, the other is the one they will avoid if they're given a choice.

I don't thing that it realy works that way.

Anyway all civs use all govenment options, and don't shun any of them as far as I have seen.


P.S.
Hmmm...
Maybe it only affects diplomcy?
Like make firends with democrats or hate communists.

[lockstep]

Originally posted by player1
Looks to much uber for me.

Only bad thing compared to Republic or Demo is pop rushing.

Hmm ... 'rampant' corruption is also worse than Rep/Dem. And I forgot to mention low assimilation and high resistance modifiers.

Still, you may be right about 'uber'.

[Random Passerby]

I think that the preferred/shunned settings do work--the AI just seems pragmatic enough that if it sees a big enough advantage to a government it shuns, it'll switch anyways. The biggest difference I've seen in the default governments comes from Monarchy/Communism; normally the AI loves Communist and will switch to it at the slightest hint of a war, but civs that prefer Monarchy or shun Communism will sometimes go to Monarchy instead. It's a rare sight to see a civ deliberately pick Republic over Democracy, though.

[Willem]

Re: Re: Re: AI and Governments

Originally posted by player1


I don't thing that it realy works that way.

Then why do you think this feature is included in the editor?