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[Ethelred]

Glad that worked.

The Kenwood uses a multi beam laser system that reads multiple tracks in parrallel. That sounds like a recipe for problems when a copy protection scheme is in use. That kind of CD ROM was developed before copy protection really got going in the last two years.

[HeinusHoratius]

Okay... That's settled then. It's the b****y cd-rom. (Please excuse me for my language). I will spend my hard-earned money on a new one and then I will be able to play Civ3 till the end of time!

Speaking of it: anyone got any nice suggestions? Is a dvd-rw a good ???

[Ethelred]

b****y cd-rom. (Please excuse me for my language).

You are excused. By me. Not by the Censor Bot. It is implacable and cannot be reasoned with.

**** Nixon was a crook.

See. It has no problem with me slandering a US President but it won't let me use his name.

Speaking of it: anyone got any nice suggestions? Is a dvd-rw a good ???

I don't know about those. I have a 16-40-4-10 Plextor CD burner. I play Civ III from the generic 16X DVD which is in now way a 16X speed. It has a problem with the bus for some reason. Tops out when the bus is saturated. Not useing DMA properly for some reason but its fine for games and playing DVDs.

DVD burners are slower than ROM players though. If you really NEED a burner and have the money then it might be usefull.

Personally I am going to wait at least a year for those things. The companies are still messing around with each other trying to make their patents the one that wins. Same crap as when DVDs were started. Sony just plain lied time an again in their efforts to get their patents as the standard. My thinking is that whatever Sony wants I don't.

If you just want a DVD ROM then the Pioneers 16X slot sounds good. I hear that it is not the overloud thing my 10X is. Sounds like it is trying to attain the spead of sound so thats why I use the generic piece of (Censor Bot) not really 16X DVD. I have heard that Toshiba DVD drives are pretty good but having never seen one for sale when I was looking I think of them as a mythical beast.