The 1.1 patch list

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I just noticed what else was missing:

To be able to talk to more nations at the same time. Right now I would like be able to negotiate peace with several nations, I'm not talking about just peace for me, I'm talking about to be able to negotiate peace for my friends and enemies so we all can stop the war (or for that sake start a new one together ) with each other.

For a such thing to be posible I believe everything should still be the same in the diplomatic "view". This means I could say I want peace with all of you, but as return I want the invention XXX, and someone else could say I only want peace if all of you give me 10 gold each for the next 20 turns

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Has anyone made a list of the wanted game improvements?

[Lawrence of Arabia]

Let air units destroy (not just damage) all sea units except subs, and be able to destroy mechanized land units (artillery, radar artillery, Modern Armor, Tanks, Panzers, mech. Inf etc.)

[MxM]

Originally posted by aebbeka
-An instant jump from the Building Queue to the Civilopedia (opening to the building/unit in question)

Could not stress this more than THIS!!!!

Also in terrain info box there should be improvement LISTED. alternatively, they could be listed in the info box on bottom right of the screen.

Also there should be a way to check civ mood to other sivs (polite, furious, etc.)

Also, the amount of both strategic and luxury resources should be adjusted separetely at the game setup screen (not in the editor)

[Dida]

1)please fix the city sorting feature. If you try to sort a city, let say, according to production, it unsorts after 2 second, which is very annoying if you are trying to feature out how your cities are doing.

[vincentz]

1) list unit stats when you click on Change Production in the menu you get when you right click on a city.

2) More information of what new imporvements, units, resources you get when you discover a new technology

3) Have somewhere (maybe to the left of the minimap) a button where you can display a specific resource on the map. Example: I discover Gunpowder, salpeter should appear on the map. I check a city, no I am not connected to an existing source. So I have to scavenge all my territory to find the resource, if I dont find it I will have to scroll all over the world map to see where the nearest one is located. Tedious.

4) This might be just my bad luck, but in my games coal has been extremely rare. Gold is WAY more common than coal (light up those barbeques with gold baby, coal is too expensive).

5) This might be just me, but I would think it to be logical that one can upgrade units in an existing army, even unloading certain units. If one can, please tell me how, my army of Archers in 1760 AD needs to go home to their children from 200 AD and the infantry wants to take over.

[Adagio]

Originally posted by vincentz
4) This might be just my bad luck, but in my games coal has been extremely rare. Gold is WAY more common than coal (light up those barbeques with gold baby, coal is too expensive).

In the game I'm playing now (I'm still only playing my first game) coal is...well...nowhere...almost, there exists a little amount (1) of coal and I believe to have looked all over the world (of those parts of the world I have seen)

So please make coal more common

[Ribannah]

Executor, Matte979, BigBopper, ADG: I think (default) settings for corruption, cultural, weariness, aggressiveness, diplomacy etc. should be open for retuning after we have had some experience with the game. Therefore it's not wise to make it an option (scale) right away.

ADG: I would love multilateral negotiations, but this is very hard to program and balance. More for the Civ4 List than something that can be accomplished in a patch!

List updated.

[Dida]

Originally posted by ADG


In the game I'm playing now (I'm still only playing my first game) coal is...well...nowhere...almost, there exists a little amount (1) of coal and I believe to have looked all over the world (of those parts of the world I have seen)

So please make coal more common

true, coal is nowhere to be found on the map.

[Yaga]

Oh, if I could be so lucky...

In addition to agreeing with many of the posts above on this thread...

-- Engineering should allow workers to create aqeducts to carry fresh water to irrigateable squares over at least some non-irrigateable terrain; Hills come to mind as such terrain

-- Horse-based units (cavalry, knights, etc) should not be able to cross mountains w/o a road

-- Trade Advisor screen should indicate if you have resources / luxuries which a civ needs, instead of having to click through the "More" section on the Foreign Advisor screen

-- Submaries / Nuclear Submaries should be able to choose which unit within a sea stack they wish to attack. Similarly, combative units within a stack (frigates, etc) should get a single-fire bombardment on the attacking sub when this happens, similar to, say, cannon firing from a city when a ground unit attacks.

-- There needs to be some sort of "Regional Capital / Palace" improvement which will limit corruption in far-flung areas. Perhaps as a function of a "Colonialism" Civ Advance, which would also allow you to build an "East India Trading Company" Minor Wonder, which would act as a sort of Collusus for a more modern age.

-- Police Stations should decrease both War Weariness and Corruption, but perhaps increase unhappiness in some gov'ts

-- Some sort of "Border Patrol" option, perhaps with Nationalism, that will rebuff anyone attempting to cross borders w/o a Right of Passage agreement.

-- Nationalism should also modify corruption a little; a proud nation with a communal identity is more likely to pull together. Also, corruption should *decrease* when a country is "mobilized"

-- Having built the UN, you should have an option within your diplomacy section to hold elections, rather than have the pop-up "want to hold elections?" occur at every turn.

-- Any way to have Colonies act as very small cities, where you can build things like walls & harbors, but which, perhaps, cannot grow past a size of 2?

-- Civ-specific units for each Era? Or perhaps just more than one per Civ?

-- Ability to change the color of your Civ's units: Love the Iroquois, but I hate being purple.

-- Universal Sufferage should be a Minor Wonder, along with Manhattan Project.

-- Warriors -> Swordsman...? What keeps Swordsmen from having an upgrade path? Perhaps to Muskateer or Knight, once those units become available?

-- Anti-Tank Helicopters? : Modern Armor is just too powerful against almost anything that's not in a large city.

-- Modern Sea Units (Nuc Subs, Frigates, Agesi cruisers) should be able to re-base similar to Modern Aircraft; their usefulness, especially that of transports and subs, diminishes once you have airports and are after people far away. I've had subs and the like take 10-15 turns to move across a large ocean.

-- Whatever happened to guys on skis? I forget their real names, but those commando units which could move quickly over rough terrain would be appreciated.

-- Armies comprised of like units should retain the qualities of those units: Armies of Marines should be able to attack from the sea, Armies of Modern Armor should have multiple attacks. Also, you should beable to remove members (unload) them from the Army. Havn't figured out how to do this yet, if it is possible.

-- Conscripts go home? After you've finished Mobilizing and returned to Normalcy, shouldn't your conscripts go home? I don't know how you'd work this, especially since I often conscript out of cities that have reached their size limit, but it seems un-realistic that after you're no longer at war you can maintain a vast army of conscripts. Obviously, any unit that's been upgraded to 'regular' should stay in the field.

-- Propoganda Wars : Propoganda shouldn't be a hit-or-miss scenario. Starting a Propoganda war should be a cost-per-turn event that acts as a cultural influence on a city. The cost should be player-controllable.

-- New "Minor Wonders"
- Internet: Increases effectiveness of Research Centers
- East India Trading Company: See above
- Olympic Games: Increases Happiness in every city on a cyclical basis and / or has similar effect, but only lasts a few years, then must be built again
- Manifest Destiny: Increases range of all Settlers from 1 to 2
- Roman Senate (or suchlike) Decreases Corruption throughout Civ until some other advance negates it
- Socrate's Symposium (or something) : Increases science production in city until Education or Theory of Gravity

-- Ability to bribe other Civs into *not* building specific Wonders: "What would it take for you to stop building Leonardo's Workshop?"

-- Fortresses exert cultural signifigance; If you build a fortress in the land between boarders, that square should be somehow resiliant to other's cultural influence expanding onto it, and similarly be conducive to having your culture grow into that square.

-- Ability to give orders to an entire stack of similar units, or rather, all similar units in a stack.

And finally...

Whatever happened to Schisms? From the old boardgame of Civilization through Civ II, I liked that, under certain conditions, Civilizations would split. Perhaps this could be a result of too-great an empire? That your cities don't flock to other Civs, but create a new civ all their own?

Just my thoughts...
Yaga

[Yaga]

Doh...

Just remembered three other things:

-- Why can artillery not be airlifted? Later in the game, especially when you're trying to cross vast (meaning 7-8 turn) oceans, it's a pain in the a** to have most all of your units be able to be airlifted, save for artillery

-- Similarly armies cannot be airlifted. I assume this is because of their being containers for other units, and understand that there may be game-play issues if populated armies could be airlifted, but empty armies (and I believe Leaders) cannot be airlifted, again making them very ineffective in later portions of the game if there are oceans to cross. Perhaps a good way to address this (especially if it's because they're containers and the game can't tell if they're populated or not) is to make a Minor Wonder that would allow for armies to be Airlifted - a "C-130" or "Super Cargo" Minor Wonder.

-- Another useful unit would be a "police officer" or some such, which would quell corruption at the expense of increased unhappiness: Nothing like a police state to keep people unhappy, but productive.

[Scott_S]

Hiays,

Not sure if this has been suggested (so MANY good ideas here!) but one thing I'd LOVE would be the ability to toggle 'show enemy moves.'

In a late, peaceful game, where civs are running units around all over the place it takes FOREVER for the turn to complete. Now, sure, the computer has to make it'smoves, but I think it could probably be sped up a bit if it didn't have to show me everything it was doing.

I could build a Cathedral, um, PHYSCIALLY, in the time it takes the endgame 'Huge', 16 Civs, move to complete itself.

Granted I have units all over the place, and naturally, nobody respects borders (And even if they do, when you ally with one to fight enemy X, and all the troops from your ally come barreling down through your empire, well, the way it acts is that they tend to get caught in an infinate type loop and spend most of the time running around.)

And, that also leads to problems should you choose (or they choose) to cancel the Right of Passage treaty, or even worse, sneak attack.

I mean, the latter is pretty cool, actually. Haven't had it happen yet, but more than anything, the time factor.

Maybe it's my machine (it's an 800 that I'm using right now with a ton of memory) but I think this would help.

Best Regards,

Scott

[Dida]

fix the domestic advisor.
The time was 2002 AD, and the stupid woman come up to me, and said:" New York has just built a Nuclear Plant, would you like to buiild a swordsman in New York?"
com'on???? 2002? and asking me to build swordsman? I've got modern tanks already.

[Adagio]

Originally posted by Dida
fix the domestic advisor.
The time was 2002 AD, and the stupid woman come up to me, and said:" New York has just built a Nuclear Plant, would you like to buiild a swordsman in New York?"
com'on???? 2002? and asking me to build swordsman? I've got modern tanks already.

Oh yeah, that is annoying. You can change that in the goveneour window (rightclick a city and choose to contact the goveneour), but that way you can only change that for all time. I would like it to be able to choose for each time (modern, etc.)...

I really hope somebody from Firaxis reads these posts

EDIT:

Well...I just saw something else that needs to be fixed. The city arial view: It looks like if there only lives a few thousand people in the cities (took a look at the modern days arial view)! come one, a few tall buildings just next to the sea, while in the center of the city (town???) there's only a few houses, but a lot of free space. I don't know about you, but I belive a normal city has the tall buildings in the center of the town, and the small houses near the sea...

With other words, we (atleast I want) want the city to look like a city, not like a town

[PGM]

Precision bombing:
Doesn't work. I can only choose to bomb my OWN cities.