Just beat the game at monarch difficulty for the first time...wonder vic'try (korea)

[ariano_paluda]

And...i'm gonna try again :-)

I noticed some of you guys post savegames here. And i decided to try that myself. and i plan on using the ottomans, on a large cont, 70% map, with restless barbarians, and normal aggression from the AI.

Wich "milestone" dates would you like being posted besides 4000 bc?

What i'm really curious about, is how to REX properly, and how to space cities. other than that, just fire away when i get those games posted (don't have my own IC, since it's very expensive here in denmark).

AP

[alva]

Perhaps it's better, to just post a couple of screenies.

[vmxa1]

Well 4000bc and 2190BC are good break points. Congrats and good luck.

[joncnunn]

If you were playing a non-agricultural civ on that Monarch game you won, then the only tricks of the trade you might not know about are worker and settler pumps, and the varient of settler semi-pump.

(A worker pump produces workers constantly on the same turn of growth staying the same size. Usally has a Granery. 5fpt and 5spt is a two turn worker pump on a city size 6 or less, usually size 3 or 4 though.)

Settler pumps alternate between two sizes, usally 5 and 6. 5fpt throughout and an average of 7.5 spt. With a granery.

A settler semi-pump alternates between a settlers and improvements / expensive units / pairs of cheap untis. Usually has 3 fpt and a granery.

As to city placement on Monarch level, well, your plan obviously worked on the previous one. But if you wish to dominate the AI even more on this level:

Generally avoid the OCN pattern UNLESS you have camps [temp cities that build nothing but a baracks and units] between them.

Having one direction as CXXC and the other CXXXC with no camps tends to work well, but don't become married to a pattern, consider the terriagn. Partiuclarly rivers and locations of known resources.

And also be aware of corruption in city placement. Unless your agircutral that virtually all desert really close to you no where near a river doesn't make for a particarly good permenent city.

Instead it's a camp to be disbanded as soon as the adjoining cities cultural boundary expand to take it in. It's going to cost your empire more shields than it's bringing in pretty quickly.

[ariano_paluda]

I'm not really "at home" with some of the abbreviations used here...for instance, i don't know what OCN is...

last week i finally found out what REX actually stands for


that aside, i will what i can do about uploading screenies and saves..don't have my own IC, so i'll go bother some of my friends :-)

btw, what should the screenies be showing??? do you want screen saves from my entire realm? or just a few "key" cities?

oh, and on a sidenote, i was REALLY lucky in this game. I got a SGL upon discovering writing, and i used it to build the colossus...got another one discovering scientific method, and i used that for building hoover dam. How much is the scientific golden age worth anyway??? can you pop additional SGL's during the scientific golden age? i mean, do the game mechanics regarding SGL's change in a scientific golden age??

Thanks for the help so far :-)

AP

[vmxa1]

SGL adds 25% to research.

[joncnunn]

OCN = Optimum City Number.

CN = City (rank) Number

See the corruption thread.

Colossus was a rather poor choice for the SGL, becuase Colossus at 200 shields is one of the cheapest. I'd have picked Pryamids and discontined any granery builds on the starting landmass, and if I didn't have Masonry yet I'd have held onto the SGL until I did get Masonry.

Scientific Golden Age doesn't work at all due to a bug.

[Rommel2D]

Originally posted by joncnunn
Scientific Golden Age doesn't work at all due to a bug.

SGA works for the advisors- they tell you you're getting more beakers, but those beakers aren't counted toward the actual discovery...

[ariano_paluda]

Thank you, once more :-)

Joncunn you're right about choosing the expensive ones. Gotta remember that. I chose the colossus for sentimental reasons, and i actually conquered the pyramids from the americans some 100 years later ;-)

AP

[ariano_paluda]

I'm having difficulties getting those screenies. I tried pushing every key on my keyboard, but nothing happened. I couldn't find a folder in the civ3 directory containing any screenies, so obviously i haven't hit the right one yet.

what happened in the game i intended to start, was that i won the spacerace, but for some reason the domination vic con wasn't checked. if it were, i would have lost, since the hittites ended up being the only civ on a continent approx 2/3 of the world.

what i learned: don't leave the super ai alone for that long...it'll backfire....


tried a couple of games on emperor. with everything random except barbarians. every time so far, the world was a pangea one. and i have lost them all. the computer keeps ganging up on me, and it's tough waging war on 4 ai's thats larger and more productive than you. one or two is manageable, but more than that, is just too much. when i find out how to make those screenies.

AP

[Rommel2D]

Once you press the PrintScreen key to copy the screen onto the clipboard, open MSPaint and 'paste' onto a new bitmap. Then you can edit it and probably compress the file (not sure what you'd want to use for this) before posting.

[ariano_paluda]

4000 bc

[ariano_paluda]

2150 bc

[ariano_paluda]

1075 bc

[ariano_paluda]

270 bc