destroying newly captured cities (?)

[dgrimes]

I am playing off the original civ3 disk. when one takes an opponents city, one is given the option to capture or destroy it. I have found many times I need to capture the city so my military units can regenerate. then, as I am in heavily occupied enimy territory the city will, after a few turns, revolt and go back to the opponents side. I am losing units in these cities when this happens that would be very benificial to the general mayhem I wish them to cause.

is there any way to capture a city for a couple turns and then destroy it?

is there something I can research that allows me to regenrate units when in enimy territory by letting them rest a turn or 2?

thanks, dave - who plays regent level small games.

[Kloreep]

Are you using the 1.29 patch? If not, get it. It fixes a lot of bugs and makes the game much better.

Anyway, to your questions. It's difficult to prevent culture flips in a city that has enemy citizens, had enemy culture in the past, and likely A) has enemy borders in its radius and B) is closer to their capitol than yours.

All of these factors make it likely they'll revolt, and aside from starving the city intentionally in order to get rid of citizens loyal to your enemy, there's not much you can do to reduce them quickly. (It is possible to stuff a city so full of units it won't revolt, though this typically requires A LOT of units to make it near impossible.)

Also, there is something you can research to let your units heal in enemy territory: Sanitation. Sanitation lets you build hospitals, and once you have 5 hospitals up, you can build the Battlefield Medicine small wonder, which allows your units to heal in enemy territory. However, this is Ind era stuff, so you're out of luck in the Ancient and Mideval ages.

[dgrimes]

right! thanks panda looking dude. I may try to starve them but don't know if I can do so quick enough. I almost never get to far into the ind. eras on the small games I play, so you're right guessing it will be a tough nut to crack blowing into the middlwe of enimy territory to disrupt. I think I'll give a try to a city a little farther away from capitol too. Thogh cutting their roads to far off cities right next to the capitol was pretty sweet. hehe. -dbg

[dgrimes]

where do I get patches?

where do I get 1.29 patch?
-dbg

[Kloreep]

http://www.apolyton.net/civ3/

Click on Patch Center on the right. Civ3 1.29 is at the bottom. (Note: If you have Game of the Year, that should be 1.29 already. Similiarly, if you've gotten one of the expansions since your post, it should have been installed automatically. Otherwise, make sure to get it. )

[Muad'Dib]

Right click on the city you want to destroy. Scroll down on the options. Click Abandon City option. Once you do that, city is destroyed. If city has large enough population, you will also create capture workers. I like to do this with very large cities that are built too close together (maximize city radius) or were built on the wrong tile that doesn't maximize specials or resoucres (then build with your own settler). Don't forget to sell off improvements before you do this; you generate income because the AI usually never has any gold in its treasury, so when you capture a city you usually don't get any gold with it.
Another nice trick when you do this (abandon city), and the city has a large population and you get captured workers. If you created enough workers, and your efficency is high, and your tech is advanced, you can build fortresses and radar towers to help with your defense.

Good Luck.

[dgrimes]

Excellent tutoring PotUU! that's what I was looking for. new Q though...how do I sell off improvements?
much thanks for your time
-dbg (who has moved from playing regent level to monarch level...still smaller game boards though.)

[vmxa1]

In the city view (DB clickk the city) you will see all the structures you have built or were built by a wonder.

Just click on them (not sure if right or left, I think left) to sell. You cannot sell those built by wonders.

[Muad'Dib]

Right Click on the improvements that you want to sell. When you do that, click the sell option. As you know, when you capture cities, culture producing improvements are destroyed, except Great Wonders; small wonders are destroyed too, but they can be rebuilt. The only improvement that you can't sell is an aqueduct.

[vmxa1]

Well you cannot sell a hospital either, nor a lab from the wonder or a barracks form a wonder, etc.

[Muad'Dib]

Your are right on those accounts. But those wonders affect only the continent on which they were built, and only if you're the one that built it. If you capture a city from an enemy AI that built those wonders (Sun Tzu, Internet, Pyramids, Hoover), they wouldn't show up in the list.
Are you sure about not being able to sell Hospital??? Have to check that out.

[vmxa1]

Yeah, I have tried to sell them to prevent useless cpatured cities from growing back to metros.

[Muad'Dib]

You're right about hospitals. I usually never sell improvements from cities I capture. Less stuff to build for me. When I went to destroy a citiy, I just choose the the raze city option. I find, as I stated above, that you get more captured workers from razing large cities then if you sell-off improvements and then abandon it.