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    I've always gone into modern era wars with an eye toward one day hitting the "single-turn war", in which I completely eliminate another civ in the opening offensive. I usually could come close, lacking just an island city or a city in the middle of a hill patch, or stymied by loose AI placement, just something that there was no way I could get a unit to until the next turn. The few times I did have a single turn war, it was always a civ I had whittled down to a couple of cities previously, which was unfulfilling in this respect. Tonight, I finally hit it.

    To set the stage: In 1415, with complete control of my own continent and a foothold on the other, shared by Russia, Germany and America, Abe decides to relieve me of that foothold. Naturally, I enlist Catherine and Bismarck's help, locking America into war with its neighbors on both east and west. In 1460, Russia makes peace with America and the next turn, so do I, leaving only America and Germany fighting. I stoke this for a while, gifting tech, resources and cash to first America, then Germany, and even getting in the act a bit and taking some German cities when it looked like they were too much stronger than America (1695-1730). Yes, I kept them yo-yoing back and forth that long (longer, actually).

    Fast forward to 1768, and Russia attempts to invade my holdings on that continent. Hordes of Cossacks against my MA and MI. It wasn't pretty. In 1782, I've confined them to offshore cities and am leisurely bombing away their military. In 1788, I bomb what I can (the 4 ships left in the Russian navy), then make peace. America and Germany have been at war this whole time, Germany enjoying my backing at this point, though it's only produced a stalemate where there was rapid American advance.

    I turn my eye to America, which has 25 cities at this point. I force a "Remove your troops" declaration from Abe, then go to work. At one point, I make an ROP with Germany to help break the Seige of Konigsberg. After taking several more cities, it starts to dawn on me that I may be able to pull off the STW. Sure enough, a little creative and judicious use of 4xCav and 4xMA armies and all 25 American cities are mine, still in 1788.

    That's when it occurs to me that I've got a five city Germany that can't possibly help me anymore, being the only other nation on the continent. I've also got an ROP and some unused MAs, 4xMA armies and RAs. I check the F3 screen and see that Germany's military consists of one redlined Panzer, five rifles and four vet MIs. Can we say ROP Rape (even though it probably wasn't needed)?

    You guessed it... two single-turn wars successfully completed in the same turn.

    Btw, domination victory was triggered in 1778. I'm just playing it out for fun at this point.
    Solomwi is very wise. - Imran Siddiqui

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    I've never done it in this game. civ2 on the other hand...

    Not being able to utilize their roads makes it hard.

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    • #3


      fun stuff.

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      • #4
        The greatest delight for man is to inflict defeat on his enemies, to drive them before him, to see those dear to them with their faces bathed in tears, to bestride their horses, to crush in his arms their daughters and wives.

        Duas uncias in puncta mortalis est.

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        • #5
          You bad. Why didn't you nuke'em?
          Seriously. Kung freaking fu.

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          • #6
            Nice one Solomwi
            Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing?
            Then why call him God? - Epicurus

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            • #7
              Well done.

              The closest I've managed is in the Peacekeeping AU on Deity, where I took out the Japanese and Romans within a two-turn period. No ROPs!
              And her eyes have all the seeming of a demon's that is dreaming...

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              • #8
                The President is going to have to pin another star on your collar, Solomwi!
                Haven't been here for ages....

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Modo44
                  You bad. Why didn't you nuke'em?
                  I'm still researching satellites.

                  If anybody's interested, I'll post the beginning of turn save when I get home tonight.

                  EDIT: Better research needed, since I apparently can't spell satellites yet.

                  EDIT EDIT: No wonder my research is going so slow. Thanks punkbass.
                  Last edited by Solomwi; September 23, 2004, 11:26.
                  Solomwi is very wise. - Imran Siddiqui

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Solomwi
                    EDIT: Better research needed, since I apparently can't spell satellites yet.
                    Better research needed? Apparently you can travel back in time!:

                    If anybody's interested, I'll post the beginning of turn save when I get home last night.
                    So where's the save?

                    "There once was a woman called Bright,
                    Who travelled much faster than light,
                    She left one day,
                    In a relative way,
                    And returned the previous night"
                    "I used to be a Scotialist, and spent a brief period as a Royalist, but now I'm PC"
                    -me, discussing my banking history.

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                    • #11
                      Here's the save, last night, or tomorrow night, or whenever.
                      Attached Files
                      Solomwi is very wise. - Imran Siddiqui

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                      • #12
                        if you have a right of passage that's past 20 turns, especially in the modern ages, you can put your troops at basically every city, then cancel the right of passage. end your turn and then just declare war when they ask you to leave is what i do.
                        I use Posturepedic mattresses for a lifetime of temporary relief.

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                        • #13
                          i always enter theire terrotory (i know i spelled it wrong) before i declare war.
                          F 14 tomcat fanatic

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by bobbo008
                            if you have a right of passage that's past 20 turns, especially in the modern ages, you can put your troops at basically every city, then cancel the right of passage. end your turn and then just declare war when they ask you to leave is what i do.
                            I'm assuming your units use up all their movement points getting to the cities? Otherwise, why would you let them get a free shot at your forces by not declaring war on your turn?
                            Solomwi is very wise. - Imran Siddiqui

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by bobbo008
                              if you have a right of passage that's past 20 turns, especially in the modern ages, you can put your troops at basically every city, then cancel the right of passage. end your turn and then just declare war when they ask you to leave is what i do.
                              This is still considered a ROP rape and you do take a significant rep hit .
                              * A true libertarian is an anarchist in denial.
                              * If brute force isn't working you are not using enough.
                              * The difference between Genius and stupidity is that Genius has a limit.
                              * There are Lies, Damned Lies, and The Republican Party.

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