Civ 3 game length; PTW value

[JimMac]

Originally posted by Wiglaf

JimMac, can you spell out why Conquest's single player game is weak vs. PTW? What happened?

Well, lets see... from the top of my head, things I can think of which worked properly with the last patch of PTW but are now broken in C3C are:
-the Submarine bug (units in C3C 'bumping' into a sub and starting wars)
-Barbarians are broken-if units are in the wrong position relative to the barbs, the barbs won't attack them-even if they are undefended settlers or workers.
-The AI doesnt know how to use leaders to make Armies, giving the human a great advantage.
-AI ships will now repeatedly bombard units in cities, injuring units (which heal next turn with barracks) rather than cut routes to resources as it used to do in PTW
-AI workers are not as 'clever' in their choices in C3C as they were in PTW.

I believe that these issues are important enough to argue that for single player, PTW gives a better challenge than C3C

And there are some new bugs/balance issues introduced with C3C such as:
-the Scientific Golden age doesn't work
-as Sir Ralph stated;
-the governments arent balanced
- the agricultural trait is too powerful

And then there is this list of 50+ 'features' which could be improved

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=101501

Apart from these things though, C3C is pretty good

[Wiglaf]

Hm. Seems like Civ3+PTW is the way to go for single player. Even so, out of curiosity, what does conquests have as far as multiplayer? Is it a big improvement over PtW, at least in LAN? (ie, is it playable..I hear people have problems with no popups and not seeing battles, etc.) Thanks.

[spy14]

Question is will the next (and i've heard last) patch resolve these issues?

It would be great to buy a finished product once in a while

[Vince278]

Originally posted by spy14
It would be great to buy a finished product once in a while

Can't remember the last time I've ever seen that.