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  • #31
    A getaround for this problem is to mod all invisible units to have hidden nationality like the ninja in the Sengoku conquests scenario. This way, accidental attacks on invisible units will not cause war.

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    • #32
      Well, that's a pretty nice workaround- only problem is when they are etected they'll be hunted and killed... but maybe that'll be fun.

      Also, does anyone have any rumors (at least) on if/when a final patch is slated beyond 1.22?

      Is there evena shred of hope for a few of the final bugs to be killed?

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      • #33
        Didnt the Americans accidentaly sink a Russian sub some time ago???

        Simple solution anyhow...

        1. Don't build subs
        2. Don't make allies

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        • #34
          3. Don't play Conquests.

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          • #35
            Man, the civ copmmunity seems a little out of joint lately...

            I'd really like to see one more patch that doesn't break stuff and fixes a few more bugs...

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            • #36
              Sub bug fix now!

              This is one of the big things that need to be fixed. This, barbarian behaviour, and AI failure to use armies are the biggest problems I can think of right now.
              Why can't you be a non-conformist just like everybody else?

              It's no good (from an evolutionary point of view) to have the physique of Tarzan if you have the sex drive of a philosopher. -- Michael Ruse
              The Nedaverse I can accept, but not the Berzaverse. There can only be so many alternate realities. -- Elok

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              • #37
                But is there going to BE another patch? And about when? Things are dying down in the civ3 community it seems like.

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                • #38
                  A "final" patch has been promised for the summer.
                  Why can't you be a non-conformist just like everybody else?

                  It's no good (from an evolutionary point of view) to have the physique of Tarzan if you have the sex drive of a philosopher. -- Michael Ruse
                  The Nedaverse I can accept, but not the Berzaverse. There can only be so many alternate realities. -- Elok

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                  • #39
                    Thank goodness! Even if it's mere unsubstantiated rumor I'll take it! I'll take whatever I can get.

                    C'mon o ye gods, one last patch to fix the few last scraps.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Last Conformist
                      A "final" patch has been promised for the summer.
                      Did they tell the year?

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                      • #41
                        Well- uh yeah. Anyway I'm trying the hidden nationalities subs for now- I upped their prices a bit though too. For kicks I made privateers advance to the normal submarine. After all, that's how the AI will use them now.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Sir Ralph


                          Did they tell the year?
                          I think it's safe to assume that if it doesn't come this summer, it won't ever.
                          Why can't you be a non-conformist just like everybody else?

                          It's no good (from an evolutionary point of view) to have the physique of Tarzan if you have the sex drive of a philosopher. -- Michael Ruse
                          The Nedaverse I can accept, but not the Berzaverse. There can only be so many alternate realities. -- Elok

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Last Conformist
                            It was fixed in PTW. It returned in C3C, and has not been fixed again despite several patches.
                            Well, that explains it, then.

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                            • #44
                              At least we can make the Subs defence 8, or 6 so if they are accidentally hit they have a chance to survive.

                              Making them hidden nationality is a good idea.
                              It seems they can stealth attack against subs, which seems silly to me so in my 7 AGES of MAN mod i've only allowed them to attack surface subs - subs can see other subs , so they would be able to escape before a stealth attack was launched on them.

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                              • #45
                                Hidden nationality of subs. Interesting. How often have subs been used as such in practice though?
                                One day Canada will rule the world, and then we'll all be sorry.

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