Linked Alliance Insanity

[saturn]

I'm playing Russia in the Napoleanic wars conquest. 1.15.

I had a mutual protection pact with Britain. Then Holland, which has a linked alliance with Britain declares war on Britain (first insanity?). So now I find myself at war with Holland.

Since I had long ago occupied most of Prussia, I turned my sights toward Holland, and invaded. Only to find myself at war with Britain. After all, Britain has a linked MPP with Holland, right (second insanity)?

What the $#%@ is wrong here?

[vmxa1]

Don't know about "linked", but the declaring war should have broken any MPP. How can you stay in an MPP while they are at war with you? That does seem insane.

[TheArsenal]

I am assuming you mean “locked alliances” in place of “linked alliances”. If that’s the case, I’m not sure how those wars happened, but I haven’t played that particular conquest either.

I have a Locked Alliance mod I play quite a bit (where locked alliance countries share UUs) and even though the locked alliance works virtually like a game long MPP there are some differences I’ve found. And one of them is you can’t actually go to war or break the MPP with one of the countries you’re in a locked alliance with. Physically, the game will not even allow you to attack an allied player’s units. It gives you a pop up message telling you that you can’t attack that unit.

That is why, again, I’m not sure how Holland declared war on Britain at all. It shouldn’t be able to. Maybe I’m misunderstanding what you’re saying.

[vmxa1]

That is how I read it as well.

[Willem]

Re: Linked Alliance Insanity

Originally posted by saturn
I'm playing Russia in the Napoleanic wars conquest. 1.15.

I had a mutual protection pact with Britain. Then Holland, which has a linked alliance with Britain declares war on Britain (first insanity?). So now I find myself at war with Holland.

Since I had long ago occupied most of Prussia, I turned my sights toward Holland, and invaded. Only to find myself at war with Britain. After all, Britain has a linked MPP with Holland, right (second insanity)?

What the $#%@ is wrong here?

It's not possible for Holland to declare war on Britain, you must have misread something.

[saturn]

Yes I meant "locked" not linked.

And yes, I reiterate. Holland declared war on Britain. (I never declared war on Britain, I was informed that I was at war.

But its OK guys. Go ahead. Shoot the messanger.

[Barinthus]

Sounds like the powderkeg of Europe before WWI to me.

[Tall Stranger]

Saturn,

The best way to confirm your claim is to post the save, preferrably for the turn right before Holland declared war on England.

This is an obvious question, but did you modify the game in any way?

[saturn]

I thought of posting a save, but the file is long gone. I'm deep into the new Pirates conquest. (And loving it).

Sorry.

[joncnunn]

Re: Linked Alliance Insanity

As I recall, Holland's locked alliance is with France.

Originally posted by saturn
I'm playing Russia in the Napoleanic wars conquest. 1.15.

I had a mutual protection pact with Britain. Then Holland, which has a linked alliance with Britain declares war on Britain (first insanity?). So now I find myself at war with Holland.

Since I had long ago occupied most of Prussia, I turned my sights toward Holland, and invaded. Only to find myself at war with Britain. After all, Britain has a linked MPP with Holland, right (second insanity)?

What the $#%@ is wrong here?

[jshelr]

Re: Re: Linked Alliance Insanity

Originally posted by joncnunn
As I recall, Holland's locked alliance is with France.

Don't think so. I think France's locked alliance is with the crazy Danes who will screw the poor French by declaring war at terribly inappropriate times.

[lethe]

Netherlands is locked with Naples and Britain with Portugal.

So the Dutch declaring war on the English isn't terribly exciting news.

[Slax]

Umm, I don't think so. I just played this and it was Britain, Portugal, The Netherlands and Naples all locked. France and Denmark are locked.

I just checked my notes from this game, and found that at no time did locked civs declare war on each other.

[Switch]

Yes, Slax is correct. I just checked it with the Editor, and it is France with Denmark, and Britain with Naples, Netherlands, and Portugal.

Sounds like there may have been a bug?

[smellymummy]

or the messenger edited something?