Love the Byzantines: Seafaring-Scientific good combo to get those scientific leaders

[Artifex]

I think the Byzantines are overpowered and I am not playing them because it is kinda boring to be honest. I am trying other seafaring civs now. I'm going to play around with the english some. Seafaring-commercial is redundant but the english have a coolness factor and I never played them much. My main worry is collosus automatically triggers thier GA very early so I will have to skip that wonder when I play them.

Vikings seem maybe too powerful too with the berserk so I don't play them much either.

[Kuciwalker]

My only beef is that my Dromons upgrade to Caravels. They should upgrade to Frigates, dammit

[vmxa1]

Originally posted by skywalker
My only beef is that my Dromons upgrade to Caravels. They should upgrade to Frigates, dammit

I think I would prefer it this way. Frigates are dead ended, caravels are not and can become transports.

[Theseus]

Originally posted by Artifex
Vikings seem maybe too powerful too with the berserk so I don't play them much either.

HEATHEN!!

Seriously, other than being SEA and of course the power of Berserks, Scandy sorta sucks.

[Myrddin]

Byzantines got me to Philosophy first, free tech Republic, AND 2 SGLs => 2 wonders trigging a golden age

One of the best turns ever in Civ

[Kuciwalker]

I think I would prefer it this way. Frigates are dead ended, caravels are not and can become transports.

Actually, Frigates upgrade to Destroyers now

As do Ironclads.

[Plotinus]

Originally posted by skywalker

Actually, Frigates upgrade to Destroyers now

Are you *sure* about this? I tried to do this in my current game and it wasn't happening. The Civilopedia entry for the Frigate mentions no upgradeability.

[chequita guevara]

Boy howdy. I'm playing the Byzants right now and I'm having one of my best games ever, and it's mostly a land game where the dromons don't even come in to use.