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  • INFO: C3C Unit Summary Spreadsheet

    Just what the title says. Mucho thanks to Nethog for creating the original PTW summary.

    As a little bonus, I've also included an Army combat bonus summary for all the relevant units.

    Please feel free to PM or post any corrections.

    Enjoy.

    [Edit: Updated to Rev1.01]
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    Last edited by Theseus; December 3, 2003, 21:15.
    The greatest delight for man is to inflict defeat on his enemies, to drive them before him, to see those dear to them with their faces bathed in tears, to bestride their horses, to crush in his arms their daughters and wives.

    Duas uncias in puncta mortalis est.

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    Hope you don't mind Theseus - have added the lethal sea and lethal sea+land bombard traits for Fighters and Bombers respectively that appear in the editor.
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    Consul.

    Back to the ROOTS of addiction. My first missed poll!

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    • #3
      Its a good thing.

      Thanx

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      • #4
        wow thanks
        Kermit the frog

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        • #5
          Good job, MWIA!

          Other people feel free to do the same... do us all a favor though, and rename the file with an updated revision number. So, MWIA's version should be considered rev 1.01.
          The greatest delight for man is to inflict defeat on his enemies, to drive them before him, to see those dear to them with their faces bathed in tears, to bestride their horses, to crush in his arms their daughters and wives.

          Duas uncias in puncta mortalis est.

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          • #6
            Really dumb question:
            Did someone overlook the Mayan UU, Javelin Thrower?

            It should be listed under archer along with Bowman.
            I have no living enemies!
            Tim

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            • #7
              You are correct... I'll make the change, using MWIA's version.
              The greatest delight for man is to inflict defeat on his enemies, to drive them before him, to see those dear to them with their faces bathed in tears, to bestride their horses, to crush in his arms their daughters and wives.

              Duas uncias in puncta mortalis est.

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              • #8
                Interesting work. Yes very interesting.
                Long Live The Horde
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                • #9
                  Theseus,

                  I don't get the version w/ the Jav Chucker listed.

                  Edit: I've d/l 1.01

                  Also, where did you get the info for the Army bonuses? It seems that some Army make-ups are stronger than others w/ similar stats.

                  Edit2: How about a Conquistador Army?

                  Thanks
                  "...Every Right implies a certain Responsibility; Every Opportunity, an Obligation; Every Possession, a Duty." --J.D. Rockerfeller, Jr.

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                  • #10
                    steven8r, which stats seemwrong?

                    I'll put up rev 1.03 with any corrections and Conquistadors, but first, a question:

                    Can Explorers be loaded into Armies?

                    BTW, aren;t some of the stats just friggin' STUNNING??!!
                    The greatest delight for man is to inflict defeat on his enemies, to drive them before him, to see those dear to them with their faces bathed in tears, to bestride their horses, to crush in his arms their daughters and wives.

                    Duas uncias in puncta mortalis est.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Theseus
                      steven8r, which stats seemwrong?
                      I don't necessarily think anything's wrong, but there are some things currious:

                      It seems that any unit w/ a stat of 1 (excepting movement) retains that 1 even in an army. But if the stat is more than 1, then it gets boosted. Perhaps this is just the way it works.

                      For example, Hoplite vs NumMerc armies.
                      Hoplite 1/3/1
                      NumMerc 2/3/1
                      Put these in a 3x army and the Hoplite still has only 1 attack, but the NumMerc gets attack AND defense boost.

                      Some units get attack/defense increase of 1, some get increase of 2 or more in an Army.

                      What determins which stats get increased or not and by how much? Is there a formula for this?

                      Thanks,

                      (Don't know about the 'loadability' of Explorers, yet)

                      Steven
                      "...Every Right implies a certain Responsibility; Every Opportunity, an Obligation; Every Possession, a Duty." --J.D. Rockerfeller, Jr.

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                      • #12
                        Theseus,

                        I just played as Japan and have a (several, actually) 4x Elite Samurai Army w/ the Military Academy. When it shows the Army in the Infobox, it only says 4/4/3. Where does the 8/8/3 show up? (although these guys don't even break a sweat vs Tanks.)

                        Thanks,

                        Steven
                        "...Every Right implies a certain Responsibility; Every Opportunity, an Obligation; Every Possession, a Duty." --J.D. Rockerfeller, Jr.

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                        • #13
                          Sorry, I don;t check this forum enough (having a grand total of one file ever in here. )

                          Answer #1: Pre-Mil Academy, C3C Armies add 1/6 of total strength, rounded. So, yes, 3xNMs get 1 added to attack, while 3xHoplites get nothing on attack.

                          Answer #2: Bonuses don;t show on the "Army" stats (nor do appropriate mixed unit stats).
                          The greatest delight for man is to inflict defeat on his enemies, to drive them before him, to see those dear to them with their faces bathed in tears, to bestride their horses, to crush in his arms their daughters and wives.

                          Duas uncias in puncta mortalis est.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Theseus
                            Sorry, I don;t check this forum enough (having a grand total of one file ever in here. )
                            Perspire Not. (in other words, 'Don't sweat it.')

                            I appreciate your answer, however, I was able to find where you (and Catt) had answered the same question in Phobos' 'Help w/ Armies' thread.

                            So, Army gets +1/6 added to attack/defense, and w/ MilAc gets +1/4 added. This is in the case of homogenous Armies. Mixed Armies get 'averaged' stats or something.

                            And don't even bother looking at the 'Stats' in the InfoBox cause they're so off it's pathetic.

                            I think I got it now. Thanks.

                            (and my appologies if this info was already explained in your thread, 'On the Use and Utility of Armies'. That thread is at least 7 pages long and I got too lazy to look through it all.)

                            And thanks again for your Unit Summary Spreadsheet (I really like the 'Army' tab.)

                            Steven
                            Last edited by steven8r; January 13, 2004, 11:25.
                            "...Every Right implies a certain Responsibility; Every Opportunity, an Obligation; Every Possession, a Duty." --J.D. Rockerfeller, Jr.

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