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  • #16
    same here
    Any views I may express here are personal and certainly do not in any way reflect the views of my employer. Tis the rising of the moon..

    Look, I just don't anymore, okay?

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    • #17
      I have lost many wonders to barbarians when they attacked cities that contained the wonder. That has nothing to do with the issue I am raising.
      How, pray tell, did you manage that?
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      • #18
        Another one of the "this happened to me in regular Civ3 before" posts here.

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        • #19
          ... and you've lost wonder cities to Barbs, but now you're pissed by losing 200 gold?

          You reeeeeaally like gold, don't you?
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          • #20
            hey, you can buy things with that gold
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            • #21
              If you are experienced at CivIII, then you know when an uprising is coming and need to either stop it or spend all you gold before they ransack the city.

              Either have patrols stomp out camps or defend the cities that have fog areas where camps wil spring up. Otherwise after the defenders are killed each barb will come in an loot, untill all barbs are dead.

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              • #22
                Actually, it was these barbarian uprisings and having to watch as 20 horsemen plundered my tiny outlying town and took all the hard earned money I had been saving to use to buy techs when I finally met some more advanced civs that now causes me to turn barbs off completely (no huts either)

                I freaking hate them! Got to a point there'd be an uprising and they'd bypass the AI and 3 batches of 10-15 of them would head straight to my towns. I learned to spend my money fast and move all my troops out of the towns to save them too...

                Sucky barbs...
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                • #23
                  They could take over cities in Civ1 too. Very cool, especially with their red colour, not shared by any of the "real" civs. Barbarians were much more fun in those days!

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                  • #24
                    I think it is questionable that the barbs could steal 200g of the nation's 230g from this 1 little town. Perhaps there should be a limit?
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                    • #25
                      IIRC the amount of gold that the barbs plundered used to be some kind of ratio that seemed to decrease with each turn as you total gold went down. If it is a constant figure that takes your treasury quickly to zero then I think this may be a small change.
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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Plotinus
                        They could take over cities in Civ1 too. Very cool, especially with their red colour, not shared by any of the "real" civs. Barbarians were much more fun in those days!
                        It depended...landing barbs could take cities, uprising barbs destroyed them...

                        The thing I do is just keep a few fast units around (horsemen for example) and keep on the patrol for barbarian warriors scurrying around and find where their source is. Destroy the camp and get some money. Or use Javelins if you are the Mayans for the 'other benefit'
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                        • #27
                          I think Barbs should raise cities after plundering it for a little while (would make an interesting elimination game).
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                          • #28
                            Think of it as the price you pay for the ability to farm them - Otherwise we just have to turn them off

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                            • #29
                              ToZ,

                              This has happened to me also. For each Barb that enters your city, a percentage of your total gold is taken.

                              (NOT CONFIRMED): I think there is some gold per city ratio depending upon how many cities you have (#) divided into your total treasury ($). When the first Barb enters your city he gets $/#. This ratio is then reset for each Barb that enters.

                              When you take an AI city (or your city gets taken by the AI) there is x number of gold taken as plunder. But when you take a city (or get one taken) it changes hands so you can't re-enter the city again (without the AI first taking it back). The 'continual plunder' from the Barbs is the price you pay for actually keeping the city.


                              On another note:
                              I kinda like the idea of having Barb Cities. It might be cool if they could take over and become a Civ too.
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                              • #30
                                Kind of like how the Chinese Civ survived the Barbs, but the Roman civ did not IRL.
                                The Chinese did not survive. Many dynasties crumbled, and for a good period of time China was ruled by barbarians.
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