Javelin Thrower enslave too strong?

[vmxa1]

I have not play much with this civ, but so far it seems to always enslave defeated units. I am sure it won't stay that way, but it seems very strong to get slave after slave.
I forsee Fane7 using raging barbs and building massive armies of slaves.
Are they free of maint as the normal slaves? If they had some cost, it would act as a breaker.

[Shogun Gunner]

I played the Mayans last night and had more workers than I knew what to do with. Maybe 1/3 of the time, a victory meant another slave worker. It definetly helped me wipe the competition away...booming cities of production!

[Inverse Icarus]

yes, it's 1/3 odds, and yes, they're free.

in my first mayan game i actually farmed two barb camps, ended up with like 30 barb slaves.

[vmxa1]

So that sounds a bit too strong to me. Probably a canidate for a tweak.

[notyoueither]

Reversing this advantage...

I sent obsolete units to die vs the jav chuckers. Then I would kill the jav chuckers to get my workers back.

[statusperfect]

Originally posted by notyoueither
Reversing this advantage...

I sent obsolete units to die vs the jav chuckers. Then I would kill the jav chuckers to get my workers back.

twisted!

[MrWhereItsAt]

Did they become full-fledged card-holding members of your civ, or did they trade slavery under the Mayans for slavery under your mighty paw?

[Provost Harrison]

Although I do not have the game yet, I was thinking about this idea of harvesting barbarian camps by sticking some Javelin Throwers around it and taking out barbarians when they come along. I am glad to see someone has put this into practice

[Saint Marcus]

possible fixes to put in the next patch: no enslaving of barbarians, and javalin throwers only enslaving when attacking.

[Provost Harrison]

But that would spoil the che...*ahem*...fun

[Saint Marcus]

[Fried-Psitalon]

You just had a good day with the RNG, fellas. It's only 1/3 - you'll notice it a lot more when you go 40 units without a single slave. Even money says in less than two weeks we see the mirror image of this thread going up, saying that it doesn't work often enough, and needs a tweak.

As for playing with raging barbs, that's like anything else - if you set the map to favor expansionists by making it a huge pangea with sedentary barbs, that's going to give some civs an advantage too.

[Louis XXIV]

Also, the Maya have an expensive unit.

What would happen if you didn't have any resources? You would have to pay 30 shields for a 2 attack. You might get some workers, but it would be harder to win a war.

[grappleman]

i have actually had trouble enslaving workers (not counting barbs), ive found for me its about 1/5 when it comes to enslaving units. just my observations though

[MrWhereItsAt]

Originally posted by MrWhereItsAt
Did they become full-fledged card-holding members of your civ, or did they trade slavery under the Mayans for slavery under your mighty paw?

So...any answer here?