Poland as a new civ in Conquests

[Orz]

Actually you may be right, bobbo008 - the population sizes are quite different.

[sabrewolf]

Re: Poland as a new civ in Conquests

Originally posted by Wycoff
My ideas: Leader: Lech Walesa? Casimir the Great?
Traits: Religious & Agricultural
Cities: Capital:Warsaw
Vilnius, Krakow,Prague, Wroclaw, Bratislava, Ljubjana, Brno, Plzen, Wroclaw, Lodz, etc.

UU: Either the Hussars, the elite Polish Cavalry of the Seventeenth Century, who would replace Knights and get an extra movement point, or an upgraded Musketman with an extra defense point (Polish infantry was known for its rapid rate of fire)

Any thoughts or suggestions?

i always believed that there should be a second slavic civilisation. and poland is the largest and historically most important that it's no question, the this 2nd slav civ should be the polish.
however, you can't using the cities you mentioned.
Vilnius (LIT), Krakow (POL), Prague (CZE), Wroclaw (POL?), Bratislava (slovakia), Ljubjana (slovenia), Brno (CZE), Plzen (CZE?), etc.
the iroquios may represent the native north american tribes, but they havn't been given the city names of other tribes.
so stick to the polish cities, there's more than enough

as for the UU, we've got too many knight and cavalry replacements. not as many as the ancient age units (i'm worried 5 or 6 new UUs will be in the first half of the ancient age), but still.
how about a dolly buster UU. works like a civ2 spy, enters cities and takes over the local pornindusty ... works especially well in german cities
i do like the idea of another musketman replacement. and 2,5,1 could make the polish to the greek in the ancient age: nearly unattackable... until cavalry and then still there'll be a lot of dead horse meat

[Heresson]

I beg You, not Walesa.

And in fact, the second biggest Slavic state today, when it comes to territory and population, is Ukraine. But it's independant for a very short time.

[sabrewolf]

oops, true, sorry... forgot them

but imagine if you build a nuclear plant in a ukrainean city and it blows.... wouldn't that be i little be too PI

looking at the apolyton community i believe there is a bigger polish civ3-population than ukraina.
but then, on a world map, poland is just squashing in the germans, the ukraine is a little bit better positioned...

[bobbo008]

"poland is just squashing in the germans"

and i think i know what that means, just ask the Germany's neighbors: France, Luxembourg, Belgium, the Netherlands, Denmark, Poland, the Czech Republic, and Austria what happens

(you lucky little Swiss)

[sabrewolf]

well, at least the germans have some sea... swiss don't (italy, germany, france, austria, liechtenstein)

but i did just mean it in civ3 terms

[Heresson]

on a world map, poland is just squashing in the germans,

I see no problem. Lets remove German civ.

[Kuciwalker]

We have way too many European civs already.

I see no problem. Lets remove German civ.

[bobbo008]

well, from the German point of view, you can remove every civ but the Germans

[The Mad Monk]

Originally posted by Danarchy
Yes, they would be hard to play on an Earth map since they lived on the thousands of tiny islands in the Pacific. But it would still be fun to play with them on a random map, especialy an archipelago one.

Well their unique unit could be a catamaran, buildable without a tech needed, coast hugging, 1 passenger, no attack or defense. Traits would be seafaring and expansionistic.

[sabrewolf]

uhm... i think you're mixing up germany with another big power in the world

but now back on topic

Incas
Mayas
Polynesians
Khmer
Mali
(some Native American tribe)
Slavs (after what you said, the Polish might be a better choice)
...and then something else

i definetly would like to have polynesians in! also 1 or 2 african civs (nubia, mali?). maybe even the inuit, one of the most remarkable civ to survive in the those regions!

but i don't believe these are in. with hititties (i prefer this spelling ), sumerians, dutch, portuguese (thunderfall, a beta tester has confirmed these), most probably inca - 5 of 7 spots gone...
polish, maya, khmer, hebrew, etc. may be fighting for the last positions...

[The Mad Monk]

Ah, well...maybe next expansion...

[Chilean Presidentâ„¢]

Maybe Civ4

I hope in Civ 4 a bigger map (that doesn't consume so many PC resources) to have a lot, but a lot of Civs!!!

Chile of course should be included

[sabrewolf]

well, civ1 came out in 1991, civ2 iirc 1996, civ3 end of 2001. ... so civ4 should be somewhere around 2006 ;-)

i hope by then i'm rich enough to buy firaxis and influence the game a bit

[Heresson]

Originally posted by bobbo008
well, from the German point of view, you can remove every civ but the Germans

Egoists.