Civs in Civ3: Conquests

[History Guy]

As far as I know, there's no evidence of the Dutch being included.

[TheArsenal]

As far as I know, there's no evidence of the Dutch being included.

In the screenshots taken from the Gamespot preview, and topped above in the screenshot thread, there is a distinctly Caesar looking Queen Wilhelmina (place holder) appearing on the foreign advisor screen. Whether the Netherlands are just in a scenario or a civ in the game seems to be up in the air.

[vmxa1]

Originally posted by CharlesBHoff
Israel is than nation that mistreat unjewish people like the Palestinian people. They have no part in the founding of Islam religion at all in fact they try to betray the founder of Islam to his enemies against the oak they swore to defense him in Medina.

Haveing nuclear weapon doesnot make you than major military power at all when many people around the world know you as than people who donot respect civil right or human right lookl the way they police beat up Palestinian people for n o good reason.

You really want to come to a board display your unrestrained ignorance?

Of course having nukes makes you a factor are your crazy?
You mean mistreats them by letting them vote and be members of parliment? As opposed to all caring and fair treatment that say non muslim get in many Muslim countries such as say being killed for having a bible?
Man you are a fool.

[Kaos XIII]

Back on topic:

The un-official, official civs are the;

Mayas
Incas
Summerians
Hitties (Spelling)
Portuguese
Dutch (Netherlands, Holland, Pais Bays, whichever..)

That means 1 is left, if there are only 7 in. I think it will be either the Poles, Hebrews, or a S.E. Asia civ (Siam, Khmer)

[Azeem]

That's "Hittites".

And I'd very much like to see the Khmers and the Nubians in as well.

[Tassadar500]

Well lets put it this way. I would like to see Israel or Nubia as the final civ. Israel for importance Nubia to fill in the World map.

[History Guy]

The Arsenal,

This one is definitely just for a scenario. If there was a Dutch leader, he or she would have been shown. If anything, it suggests to me that the Dutch aren't included, which is rather disappointing, but no more than not seeing the Israelites.

Also, I'm not quite sure that there are only 7 civs. Gamespot has gotten other things wrong. If Firaxis says 8, I'm inclined to agree with them.

Also, is there any chance of seeing this maddening dispute about Israel end? This thread has been hijacked!!

[Sheik]

Mayas
Incas
Summerians
Hitties (Spelling)
Portuguese
Dutch (Netherlands, Holland, Pais Bays, whichever..)

I like the idea of having the Portuguese.


So are the new seven civs also going to be the only new civs for the campaigns or will we see some civs in the scenarios that are not in the larger game? As long as Conquests provides art for some of the civs that have been suggested I will be pleased.

[Tassadar500]

Yeah lets stop the political stuff and just talk about the new civs, ok?

[Rolfski]

I think the dutch are in because of this screenshot

[Harovan]

Originally posted by Rolfski
I think the dutch are in because of this screenshot

Damn, is that queen of yours ugly.



CharlesBHoff:

The questions you raise do not belong in this forum. We're a community of friends to discuss a game here. We're from all around the world and we and our governments have for certain different interests and political views. But we do not wish to discuss these things here. There is a good place to raise these questions and to post your opinion: The Off-Topic forum. Your contribution will be welcome there (well... or not, that depends on you).

If you can't find it, please use the link below. Thanks .

Forum for discussions around Iran, Iraq, Israel, North Korea, for France bashing and praising, for investigations whether the US president is an imbecile, a good genius or an evil genius and similar smart and stupid things. Oh, and you can express your opinion about East Timor, Greenland and the Easter Island there too. Or just spam, nobody cares.

[Ming]

Originally posted by Sir Ralph
CharlesBHoff:

The questions you raise do not belong in this forum. We're a community of friends to discuss a game here. We're from all around the world and we and our governments have for certain different interests and political views. But we do not wish to discuss these things here. There is a good place to raise these questions and to post your opinion: The Off-Topic forum. Your contribution will be welcome there (well... or not, that depends on you).

So true... So true...

Because CharlesBHoff... If I see you posting this kind of stuff again in ANY of the On Topic Forums, you will get restricted from posting until you learn this lesson

[lord of the mark]

Originally posted by Ming


So true... So true...

Because CharlesBHoff... If I see you posting this kind of stuff again in ANY of the On Topic Forums, you will get restricted from posting until you learn this lesson

Blame Sid and Firaxis. The precedent of AOE/AOK showed that when you have distinctive (IE non-generic) nationalities in a long timespan, random map oriented, historical game you get nasty arguments - my civs more important than yours, your civ isnt really a civ etc. The interesting thing for me is how arbitrary the civ definitions become in a game with a timespan like this.

One more reason I see the TB, 6000 year, Historical, 4X genre (IE the Civ genre) as played out. Nonetheless I will probably get Civ3 someday just to see what all the fuss is about. Meanwhile Im having too much fun with Imp2 and SMAC, and the first game i intend to get when i get a better puter is EU.

[Yahweh Sabaoth]

Back on-topic... is everyone 100% sure that the Dutch and Portugese are "normal" civs? Can a beta-tester affirm this?

If this is the case, I'm dissappointed... not that they didn't contribute to history, but how Eurocentric can you get? And in terms of gameplay, how more crowed can "Europe" get?

I sincerely hope that the Portugese and Dutch did not make the list as normal civs. That would be a waste of Khmer, Ethiopians, Hebrews, Polynesians, etc., IMO.

Let's always remember that written history can be traced back beyond 4000BC and is not limited to the age of colonization and beyond.

[Tassadar500]

I hope that the Portugese and Dutch are not in. Europe has England, France, Germany, Russia, Greece, Rome, Carthiginians, Celts, Vikings and Spain. And the Middle East has less then that. Out of the three spots that are remaining if the Portugese and Dutch dont make it I would want to see the Polynesians, Hebrews, Ethiopians or the Nubians.