I have but _ONE_ feature request for the new expansion

[Fritti]

... and that is:

PATCHES FOR EUROPEAN VERSIONS!

'nuff said.

--a very disgruntled Fritti who vows never to buy an Atari game anymore and instead resort to piracy because then I actually can get some fixes for bugs in a product I have bought!

[WarpStorm]

Well, if you feel that way, why should Atari cater to you if you are going to pirate their stuff anyways?

Seriously, Atari has said that in the future they will hold up releasing the US patches till the RotW patches are done.

[bobbo008]

"Well, if you feel that way, why should Atari cater to you if you are going to pirate their stuff anyways?"

i think fritti is pirating in response to actions by Atari, and is not going to pirate regardless...

[Vlado]

Well they should seriously think about working with their buyers, not against. I have the american version of civ III and want to buy ptw. This has become quit a problem to do since it's seems impossible to get an american version of PtW here. So I politely emailed Ataris support and asked whether the european PtW would work or if they could help me obtain an american version of PtW. Take into account that I'm emailing the support for my licensed and shop bought CivIII. The answer I get is a big -"we don't know and if you try and fail, well, that's your problem."

Compare this with people that are playing PtW, fully patched, illegally while I can't. This since I think that you should support good games and buy the original. This is so not fair!

[M. le Comte]

Atari is much more interested by your wallet than by your opinion, alas.

If there are different versions for different continents, it does enter in a profit logic. With different versions, you can make different advertising campaigns at different moments, each time adapted to each country's commercial rythm of the year. Furthermore it slackens (a little bit) piracy.

There must be other reasons, but I do not know them.

[bobbo008]

"There must be other reasons, but I do not know them.?"

they're bitter old men who love to ruin the dreams of the younger generations... afer all, they had to fight in the war, as did their parents.... no war? well, they'll just be jerks...

[statusperfect]

Originally posted by bobbo008
"There must be other reasons, but I do not know them.?"

they're bitter old men who love to ruin the dreams of the younger generations... afer all, they had to fight in the war, as did their parents.... no war? well, they'll just be jerks...

cheers

[mrmitchell]

Hm, statusperfect has turned into a mix of Skanky (one-smiley posts) and panag (cheers)

As for your suggestion, I agree except for the piracy bit. Other games don't have these problems...maybe C3C would just be translated the text in game? I don't really know how the mechanics work.

[Kuciwalker]

They really shouldn't make them incompatible. I know there are minor copy protection issues, but come on, they probably hurt more than they help.

Though it doesn't affect me much... I'm american

[mrmitchell]

The copy protection is useless and only clutters up installation and patches. Whut they need to do is do a worldwide protection system or trash it alltogether--dedicated pirates aren't going to be deterred by anything anyways.

[Panag]

Re: I have but _ONE_ feature request for the new expansion

Originally posted by Fritti
... and that is:

PATCHES FOR EUROPEAN VERSIONS!

'nuff said.

--a very disgruntled Fritti who vows never to buy an Atari game anymore and instead resort to piracy because then I actually can get some fixes for bugs in a product I have bought!

hi ,

the problem aint with atari , they are trying to fix what infogrames did wrong , ....

have a nice day

[bobbo008]

"the problem aint with atari , they are trying to fix what infogrames did wrong "

maybe you miss the point, we are trying to fight the power here, not the one who's responsible... or is this just me?

[Panag]

Originally posted by bobbo008
"the problem aint with atari , they are trying to fix what infogrames did wrong "

maybe you miss the point, we are trying to fight the power here, not the one who's responsible... or is this just me?

hi ,

you cant fight "the power" , in the end they decide , .....

it was infogrames great idea to have local languages versions , it costed more money and created more problems , thats the fact , .....

now atari has moved in and what do we see , a gold edition and a new XP , ..... lets hope they have learned from the mistakes , .....

have a nice day

[M. le Comte]

Originally posted by panag


hi ,

you cant fight "the power" , in the end they decide , .....

it was infogrames great idea to have local languages versions , it costed more money and created more problems , thats the fact , .....

now atari has moved in and what do we see , a gold edition and a new XP , ..... lets hope they have learned from the mistakes , .....

have a nice day

I just wanted to recall that Atari and Infogrames are just the same. Infogrames changed its name because they had (very very) bad financial results, and that they stinked in the Stock Exchange.

And you can always fight the power. Beyond the opportunity you ever own of opening your mouth and telling your mind on an internet forum like Apolyton's, which has become a true lobby (for the opinions of the members (sufficiently numerous) are taken into account by developpers), you always keep the possibility not to buy the products. If a forum like Apolyton adviced to boycott a product, because, for example, publishers didn't give a damn about players' mind, it would certainly hurt...

To my mind, if Apolyton's members together had no power, new newbies wouldn't suscribe all the time.

[Panag]

Originally posted by M. le Comte


I just wanted to recall that Atari and Infogrames are just the same. Infogrames changed its name because they had (very very) bad financial results, and that they stinked in the Stock Exchange.

And you can always fight the power. Beyond the opportunity you ever own of opening your mouth and telling your mind on an internet forum like Apolyton's, which has become a true lobby (for the opinions of the members (sufficiently numerous) are taken into account by developpers), you always keep the possibility not to buy the products. If a forum like Apolyton adviced to boycott a product, because, for example, publishers didn't give a damn about players' mind, it would certainly hurt...

To my mind, if Apolyton's members together had no power, new newbies wouldn't suscribe all the time.

hi ,

the management and important key people are replaced , .... thats the big change , at least they took notice of what the players where saying , .....

have a nice day