Need help with 'Objective cities'

[freestyler]

Hi all,

Until now I've never used the 'city objective' function, and looking at downloaded scenarios and other web sites I've noticed that they are quite useful BUT I don't know exactly how you work them.

So if anybody has any info on them - or knows any sites that has a guide on them or something I would be grateful.

Cheerz

[freestyler]

C'mon guys i just want to know how you use them.

Is that so much to ask???

[William Keenan]

What don't you understand? How to set a city as an objective? Use the cheat menu, edit city, toggle city objective. Don't use the three point objective, it doesn't work right.

[freestyler]

I know how you set them. but i dont understand how they work!

(What!? i have never used them before)

[William Keenan]

At the end of the scenario the points for all objective cities is totaled and is compared to the victory requirements: decisive victory, marginal victory, stalemate, marginal defeat, decisive defeat.

[Cam]

Freestyler,

The objective system was one of the earlier versions of scoring a scenario's success or otherwise, however it requires the player to capture selected cities (and sometimes Wonders) rather than raize them outright (which can sometimes be a pain). It is generally a very 'conquest oriented' scoring system.

Test of Time's flags-and-masks feature allows for much more complexity with game objectives, with a host of triggers beyond the taking of key cities (and sometimes Wonders), and I'd suggest that a more intricate game can be constructed using this approach instead. There's a few deign tips in the Scenario League and in the Cradle of Civilization sites that examine flags-and-masks.

Nonetheless, it's worthwhile to understand the objectives system.

[Boco]

Wonders as Objectives?

Don't use the three point objective, it doesn't work right.

WK, does the "Count Wonders as Objectives" toggle work? When you do use wonders as objectives, can a player freely choose to start building one in any city?

[Gothmog]

Re: Wonders as Objectives?

Originally posted by Boco
does the "Count Wonders as Objectives" toggle work?

Yes, each wonder counts as 1 objective point.

Originally posted by Boco
When you do use wonders as objectives, can a player freely choose to start building one in any city?

No, for some reason wonders will not show up in the build list when use wonders as objectives is on.

[Boco]

Re Building Wonders

Thanks Gothmog. I was afraid of that. Does that mean the BestowImprovement action in the macro language doesn't work for wonders if "Wonders as Objectives" is on?