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  • "Nowadays it is not only misleading but wrong to view Russia and the Soviet Union as one political entity… Districts like the Irkutsk regions of Siberia have adopted declarations of 'equality and independence.'"
    Time magazine, November 12, 1990

    "In July 1990, Col. General Nikolai Chervov announced that the Soviet Army had 41,580 tanks in Europe. With the Conventional Forces in Europe treaty signed in November 1990, there were hopes that a significant fraction of these tanks would be dismantled. Data released by the Soviet on November 19, 1990 indicate that there were only 20,694 Soviet tanks in Europe. Where did all the other tanks go?

    After stonewalling the newly aggressive Soviet press for two months regarding the mystery, the Ministry of Defense Information Administration finally offered finally offered to clarify the situation for the paper Sovetskaya Rossiya. Officials claimed that in excess of 20,000 tanks were moved beyond the Urals prior to the signing of the treaty. About 8,000 tanks from Europe were handed over to Soviet units in Asia, either to bring them up to strength or replace old tanks. A further 8,392 tanks were placed in storage bases in Siberia."
    Armed Forces Journal International, March 1991

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    Novosibirsk, Siberia

    General Sergei Cheverov sat at the head of the small table inside the old KGB building. He looked over the papers once again. Agreements from all Russian divisions, fleets, and wings to defect to the rebellion when the moment came. It had taken months to get the consent of the various military groups in Siberia, and only a combination of threats, intimidation, and luck had kept the ones that had remained loyal for a time from telling Moscow. Now they were masking their true intentions from the corrupt government of the west while the rebellion was being planned. "Are all the units in place?"
    "All units ready and waiting, sir. We have twelve divisions in the Urals alone. Crack troops, trained for years in case of a Sino-Soviet happened. Nothing will get through those mountains."
    "What's the count of our aircraft at this point?"
    "1542 tactical aircraft currently operational, sir."
    "And how are the people?"
    "In good spirits. They hate the westerners almost as much as they used to hate Americans. Always have."
    "Good. We'll give those damn oligarchs a fight they won't forget. Everything's nearly ready for the rebellion..."

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    Novosibirsk, Siberia

    General Cheverov stepped out of the KGB building and onto a small balcony that overlooked Dzerzhinsky Square, where a large crowd was gathering because the General's men had been spreading the word of something major happening in the Square since dawn. TV cameras has been set up inside the building as well atop the surrounding ones, amounting to nearly thirty in all. These were hooked up to various sattelite dishes that would transmit the image directly to the rest of the world.

    Cheverov signalled his aides, and the cameras were turned on. The General spoke into the various microphones positioned in front of him. "Good afternoon. I am here today to deliver a message to the world, a message that has been kept sealed in Russia for far too long by the oligarchs, the modern-day czars of our country. Many nations have already figured out what I am about to say and done nothing about it. This is what I hope to change.

    For far too long crime and corruption have plagued our nation, turning what would be a democracy into a lawless government controlled by oligarchs, mafia lords, and former Communists that have supposedly 'changed.' Our government is no better than that of the Communists, perhaps even worse. Our economy is one of the worst in the world. Our military has the worst morale in its history. Our people are a race of beggars. It is time for change.

    Siberia has long been shunned by the West. It has been called a desolate wasteland, a large concentration camp, and much more. The Siberian people are looked down upon by European Russia, considered a lesser race. This situation shall remain no more.

    As of today, Russia and Siberia cease to be one entity. We are breaking off from the corrupt west. From now on, the Siberians will decide what's best for our land, not the oligarchs. We will be an independent nation. We will be a true democracy. From this day forward, we are the Siberian Union!"

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    [This message has been edited by JT3 (edited October 18, 2000).]
    "When you tell people where to go, but not where to get there, you'll be amazed at the results."
    - General George S. Patton

  • #2
    Pacifica is surprised at these turn of events in Russia, and hope that this Siberian Union can declare its independence with a small loss of men and soldiers. Bloodshed is always bad. We will not announce support for either Russia or Siberia.

    Decisions are now going through the Pacifica government as to if the Pacific Republic should recognize the Siberian Union.

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    [This message has been edited by PolarisGL (edited October 18, 2000).]
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    • #3
      The Korean people are naturall concerned about these developments. We hope that Russia can put aside the petty differences of the two divisions it finds itsefl in now and peacefully reunite for the benefit of all Russian and peace-loving people.

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      • #4
        The Republic of China wishes to express its heartfelt support for the government of Siberia, and hopes that there will be a smooth transition of power. It is our earnest wish that there be cooperation between our two areas in the spheres of diplomacy and economics, and that we can work together in the interests of the region

        --- Lu Shanshan, Newly appointed ambassador to the Siberian Union
        To meet friends who have come from far away, is that not a pleasure?

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        • #5
          OOC: Mao claimed China.
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          • #6
            He means Taiwan, I think.

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            • #7
              OCC Um, the Repulic of China is the official name of Taiwan. It dates back to Jiang Jieshi (Chiang Kai-shek) claiming to be the legitimate government of all China.

              - Peter
              To meet friends who have come from far away, is that not a pleasure?

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              • #8
                OOC: Yep, I have played DotW too long.
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                • #9
                  Russia has, is, and always will be one country. This declaring of freedom is outrageous. There has been no request for even a comittee to discuss this, bt rather you just go and declare yourselves free? Never. There will be a war, and we shall fight to the end.
                  But I kick that ball, and I pray it goes straight,
                  If it does, then Coach says, "Good job number eight."
                  He doesn't even no my name is Andre Kristacovitchlalinski, Jr.
                  But that's the life I live...Lonesome Kicker

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                  • #10
                    Egypt hopes that the Russian and Siberian leaders can remember the responsibility they have in maintaining peace in this world. The Arab Republic of Egypt fully supports any initiatives that work to resolve the current hostilities in the region as soon as possible.

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                    • #11
                      The Korean people stand on the side of the official Russian government. This fascist upheaval is a threat to the stability and peace of the world.

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                      • #12
                        The Italian Republic supports AGAINST this civil uprising done by Siberians, Siberia is Russian and will always be that way. We will support the Russian Government to help with any rebellion, that means sending our crews to repair Russian Army tanks if requested.
                        For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                        • #13
                          Pacifica has decided to not recognize this "Siberian Union."

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                          • #14
                            OOC: I'm leaving. Not because of the world declaring war on me. I had a battle plan drawn out months before this. If anyone wnats to hear it for proof, go right ahead and ask. I'm leaving because someone(*cough*

                            SCOTT

                            *cough*) refused to let me get away even with this. Supposedly it wasn't realistic enough. Yeah, and letting GianCarlo play Italy's really gonna help realism..... Anyway, because my only reason for playing has been taken away, adios.
                            "When you tell people where to go, but not where to get there, you'll be amazed at the results."
                            - General George S. Patton

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                            • #15
                              OOC:
                              Where exactly did I complain about the Siberian Union? I can't find a single post in the forum where I complain about it. I don't even recall having an ICQ argument with you about it.

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