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  • #16
    If the move will save the Scenario League, then I fully support this venture.
    Please put Asher on your ignore list.
    Please do not quote Asher.
    He will go away if we ignore him.

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    • #17
      Yeah, why not.
      "Wit is educated insolence".
      -Aristotle.

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      • #18
        I haven't posted at CFC since Jan 2002, but if moving to there is what it takes to keep the results of thousands of hours of scenario creation intact, then that's what has to be done. I'd be curious to see exactly what Poly's owners had to say about your notification.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by H Tower View Post
          I haven't posted at CFC since Jan 2002, but if moving to there is what it takes to keep the results of thousands of hours of scenario creation intact, then that's what has to be done. I'd be curious to see exactly what Poly's owners had to say about your notification.
          Robert was professional and apologetic in his response. It was very appreciated.

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          • #20
            There was no "Give us some more time" or "We're on the verge" sort of comment?

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            • #21
              Originally posted by McMonkey View Post
              The Scenario League forum and its associated sites (the Cradle of Civilization and the Scenario League wiki) will be separate from the existing Civ2 Scenario Creation forum at Civ Fanatics which has its own moderators and its own history. Hopefully having two Civ2 Scenario forums on one will not cause any friction. The thought of forum wars is not a pleasant one, but seriously I think the active online Civ2 community is so small nowadays that any form of consolidation can only strengthen us. Hopefully there will be extra traffic generated for both forums. I have been keen on working more closely with the other Civ2 communities on the net for a long time, and although it was not the reason behind the move it could be an unexpected benefit!

              I would like to thank techumseh for his work on the move, he has been a proper leader. I would also like to thank Harry Tuttle for his foresight in saving the SL Wiki, good catch! Finally I would like to thank Robert Plomp for being so understanding about the need for a move, you are a gentleman and I wish you the best for the future of Apolyton. If I ever get into Civ4 or 5 (IE if I ever join the 21st century) I will still be a visitor to this site still!
              I just took a quick look at CFC's creation forum, and they have three threads that have had more than 5 posts in them since August. Somehow I doubt there will be friction.

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              • #22
                @H Tower
                Forum wars with only a handful to troops on either side does sound a bit pitiful anyway. I can't see why anyone would have any strong objections to our move there either.
                SCENARIO LEAGUE FORUM
                SCENARIO LEAGUE WIKI SITE
                SL INFORMATION THREAD
                CIV WEBRING MULTIPLAYER FORUM

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                • #23
                  More importantly than friction, what about my post count. Its taken me years to get up to 2500+ posts. I'm going to have to spam like mad to establish myself there
                  SCENARIO LEAGUE FORUM
                  SCENARIO LEAGUE WIKI SITE
                  SL INFORMATION THREAD
                  CIV WEBRING MULTIPLAYER FORUM

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                  • #24
                    I know that Off Topic posts at CFC used to count, don't know if they still do. Go make fun of Obama (or Palin) and you'll have more people to post with(against?) in no time!

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by H Tower View Post
                      There was no "Give us some more time" or "We're on the verge" sort of comment?
                      No. I think that he has been aware of the issues we mentioned and did not really express surprise that we wanted to move. Without copying and pasting his email I can say that he wished us the best and said that he was sorry that they could not provide the services we wanted.

                      I would read into that last comment and identify that there is a lot work that needs to be done on the Apolyton site as a whole, which leaves the Apolyton staff with a full plate. Our issues have been the wiki downtime, the attachment of graphics on the forums, and the lobotomized archived threads to name a few.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by McMonkey View Post
                        More importantly than friction, what about my post count. Its taken me years to get up to 2500+ posts. I'm going to have to spam like mad to establish myself there
                        Don't do it . . . . . . unless you can afford to lose your position as Moderator par Excellence in these difficult economic times.

                        Excerpts from the Manual of the Civilization Fanatic :

                        Money can buy happiness, just raise the luxury rate to 50%.
                        Money is not the root of all evil, it is the root of great empires.

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                        • #27
                          This makes sense to me and, if permission is needed, I'm happy to agree to anything I've uploaded being moved across to CFC. For us old timers it's a bit of a historic change (I remember when CFC was the site struggling with odd technical problems...).
                          'Arguing with anonymous strangers on the internet is a sucker's game because they almost always turn out to be - or to be indistinguishable from - self-righteous sixteen year olds possessing infinite amounts of free time.'
                          - Neal Stephenson, Cryptonomicon

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                          • #28
                            As someone who remembers back when Apolyton became Apolyton, this is sad news.

                            Still, sometimes you have to acknowledge that change is necessary, and this seems to be one of those moments.

                            Not that I post much (at all), but I'm for it.
                            John Petroski
                            PetroskiJP@hotmail.com

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                            • #29
                              I think that looks like a concensus. We will open a Scenario League forum on Civ Fanatics right away. The SL wiki page is a work in progress. We'll post a link as soon as the new forum is live. Thanks everyone for your input. And thanks especially to Apolyton. It's been a fun 12 years.
                              Tecumseh's Village, Home of Fine Civilization Scenarios

                              www.tecumseh.150m.com

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                              • #30
                                Thanks for this Brian.
                                'Arguing with anonymous strangers on the internet is a sucker's game because they almost always turn out to be - or to be indistinguishable from - self-righteous sixteen year olds possessing infinite amounts of free time.'
                                - Neal Stephenson, Cryptonomicon

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