CivRiver - a small utility to change rivers in scenarios

[McMonkey]

I'm sorry. I thinked that Civ2 community in general knows what is "command line" because of a number of existing command-line tools such as CivConverter.

Its been a long time since I used one (CivConverter) and even then it took me ages to get the command right. I have made batch files before but you just double click on them to run. I didn't realise you had to open a separate MS Dos window to run CivRiver. I still can't get it to work. I put the CivRiver folder in my C Drive and then put in the command:

C:\CivRiver civriver Test.scn -r 54 112 and various other combinations but it always comes up with 'whatever I have typed' is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file.

Sorry to be a dummy but someone will have to break it down a bit more for me. I would really like to understand how this works as there are a few of my scenarios I can already use it on!

[keu]

I put the CivRiver folder in my C Drive and then put in the command:

C:\CivRiver civriver Test.scn -r 54 112 and various other combinations but it always comes up with 'whatever I have typed' is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file.

you should type:

C:\CivRiver\civriver Test.scn -r 54 112

But don't forget to specify a full path to your "Test.scn" file.

In general, I recommend you put a copy of civriver.exe into folder with your scenario and run it there to avoid typing full paths. May be it will be simpler to make a .bat file there with content

civriver Test.scn -r 54 112

and edit it before any run.

Or more advanced, make a .bat file with content only

cmd

, place it into folder with your scenario (as civriver.exe too), run it and type

civriver Test.scn -r 54 112

in that black window with grey letters. You can recall previous commands pressing [up arrow] key, edit it and run again.

[McMonkey]

Excellent. Thanks for your patience keu. I will try it out now.

[McMonkey]

I just tried it out. I put the Test.scn file in the CivRiver folder which is in the C Drive. I typed C:\CivRiver\civriver Test.scn -r 54 112 and got back ERROR: Can't open "Test.scn": No such file or directory Press any key to continue . . .

I have double checked what I typed and also tried just: civriver Test.scn -r 54 112 and also renaming the .scn file to .sav and trying C:\CivRiver\civriver Test.sav -r 54 112 but it still does not work. Have I left any unnecessary gaps or missed something?

[keu]

I just tried it out. I put the Test.scn file in the CivRiver folder which is in the C Drive. I typed C:\CivRiver\civriver Test.scn -r 54 112 and got back ERROR: Can't open "Test.scn": No such file or directory Press any key to continue . . .

I have double checked what I typed and also tried just: civriver Test.scn -r 54 112 and also renaming the .scn file to .sav and trying C:\CivRiver\civriver Test.sav -r 54 112 but it still does not work. Have I left any unnecessary gaps or missed something?

Yes, you missed something:

But don't forget to specify a full path to your "Test.scn" file.

In this case you should have typed

C:\CivRiver\civriver C:\CivRiver\Test.scn -r 54 112

[McMonkey]

Doh! Of course, why didn't I try that. So the \ needs to go between everything the program needs to locate, only the actual command has a gap. Will try again.

[McMonkey]

Brilliant. Got it to work (or got me to work) finally. Excellent work keu, this will be a much needed new tool in my design tool kit! As you said, it is long overdue.

Just tested to make sure you can also add a river underneath a city and it works fine. I hope you don't mind if I ask a few questions though:

1) I tried to use this on a Multiplayer Gold Edition scenario but it would not work. Would it be much work to make a version compatible with MGE? It would be very much appreciated!

2) Can this be used on save files? I tried it but it didn't recognize the save. This would be useful as I normally have a scenario as a save file until it is finished and only change it to .scn at the very end.

3) Just so I can understand how it works would you mind breaking down the command (C:\CivRiver\civriver C:\CivRiver\Test.scn -r 54 112). I understand that C:\CivRiver\civriver probably activates the .exe, then C:\CivRiver\Test.scn tells it where the .scn file is it needs to work on and finally -r 54 112 tells it the command to carry out. Is this correct?

I think this deserves a place in the Scenario League sites utilities archive. Do you mind if I upload it there? I wonder if Mercator would also be willing to add it to his site. If you don't mind I will send him a message (if he doesn't read the post first). It might be appreciated over at Civ Fanatics too.

[keu]

Brilliant. Got it to work (or got me to work) finally.

Yesss! You did it!

1) I tried to use this on a Multiplayer Gold Edition scenario but it would not work. Would it be much work to make a version compatible with MGE? It would be very much appreciated!

I have thinked that MGE is almost obsolete.
Probably I'll do it in future. Which reference about MGE binary file formats you recommend?

2) Can this be used on save files? I tried it but it didn't recognize the save.

Yes it can. But current version 1.01 works with ToT 1.1 files only, either *.scn or *.sav

3) Just so I can understand how it works would you mind breaking down the command (C:\CivRiver\civriver C:\CivRiver\Test.scn -r 54 112). I understand that C:\CivRiver\civriver probably activates the .exe, then C:\CivRiver\Test.scn tells it where the .scn file is it needs to work on and finally -r 54 112 tells it the command to carry out. Is this correct?

that's it!

I think this deserves a place in the Scenario League sites utilities archive. Do you mind if I upload it there? I wonder if Mercator would also be willing to add it to his site. If you don't mind I will send him a message (if he doesn't read the post first). It might be appreciated over at Civ Fanatics too.

I answer yes. But let wait a bit until I'll make an improved version. If I shall not upload a final version here during a week or two then publish this version (1.01)
Is it OK?

[McMonkey]

That sounds good to me. I will wait for the final version before uploading it to the SL Site (unless this turns out to be the final version).

I have thinked that MGE is almost obsolete.
Probably I'll do it in future. Which reference about MGE binary file formats you recommend?

MGE is technically obsolete compared with ToT but there are a lot of people who still play it and modify old scenarios, especially in the PBEM community. If you were willing to make an MGE version it would be very much appreciated. I would certainly make extensive use of it is some of my PBEM scenarios. I'm not sure which MGE binary file formats would be recommended. Perhaps Catfish, Agricola or Mercator might know.

[keu]

That sounds good to me. I will wait for the final version before uploading it to the SL Site (unless this turns out to be the final version)

I hope that final version is done.
See the first message of this thread to get version 1.5. I've added support for ToT multimap files and for MGE/FW.

I've tested it and hope it's robust enough. Nevertheless bugreports are welcome.

[McMonkey]

Excellent work, much appreciated!

I will test it out and report back any bugs and I will also upload it to the SL Site.

[McMonkey]

Ok, I have uploaded CivRiver v1.5 to the Utilities section of the Scenario League. As mentioned a while back this section of the site is looking a bit neglected. I will try and redesign it and add some more content. I was thinking of presenting it as a toolkit for designers with a little explanation under each utility giving details on what is does and how it works.

[keu]

I hope this modest program will be useful for somebody.

[Ravlon the Magnificent]

I hope this modest program will be useful for somebody.

Oh, it will! I have tried to change rivers in the past, but with no success. This will definitely be of use!

[civ2units]

Hello keu,

could you upload you programm again please?
It seems that the files are deleted since moving the forum to another server