New Scenario--The Fall of Rome

[Exile]

funny . . . .

Gareth said almost the same thing.

[Exile]

The splash page

voila'

[Exile]

news update . . . .

Gareth and I are both testing this one now.

After he's finished, we move on to the Italian Wars for testing.

Anyone wants to assist in the testing process, send a pm.

[Exile]

Latest version sent to testers.

Process continues.

[Exile]

It's official . . .

Ok, this is the official terrain question post for the thread;

So far, two people have sent me alt terrain files. lol.

Something wrong with my terrain choices?

If there's a good reason, graphics-not-clearly-seen type thing, speak up.

[Cyrion]

Originally posted by Exile
Latest version sent to testers.

Haven't received anything yet...

[curtsibling]

Re: It's official . . .

Originally posted by Exile
Ok, this is the official terrain question post for the thread;

So far, two people have sent me alt terrain files. lol.

Something wrong with my terrain choices?

If there's a good reason, graphics-not-clearly-seen type thing, speak up.

Nothing wrong with your graphics, old boy.

I think people just always have their own preference.

[Von Bert]

Terrain choice ? oppss...


well.. u know.. anybody got his taste.. and taste changes from day to day also..
so.. just dont bother too much.. and take what is good !

then u know many of us around here, we all here like to mod mod and mod.. ..and open Photoshop is easier then test a couple of hundreds of turn..


but roman imo must be RED ! or PINK !
white ? what that mean WHITE...an empire of old senators ?
all units are RED .. and u make it white..
Exile.. im gettin old maybe.. but u really wanna make my brain work HARD ! maybe is an exercise against Alzheimer.. red units.. and white towns..

LOL ! i joke..
white..as pure as those "christian" emperor.. ok..

btw..i bend to your amazing and elegant control of civ mechanism.. this scenario will bring the player in a really
historical position , bravo !

[Exile]

Breakthrough

Cyr, have you gotten it yet? Sorry if I forgot. Been wild around here lately.

To all playtesters; New House Rule--you cannot bribe the Usurper. If the Usurper is in a town, you cannot bribe the town either. lol.

Altered that event by putting in a makeaggression against the Romans.

New event file;

[curtsibling]

That is a brutal (and historical) series of body blows to the Empire!

I enjoy playing under pressure. This is going to be a blast...!

[Exile]

It's tooooo gruesome!

I've got one more monster hammer that I'm holding in reserve.

1.) Give Romans the monotheism tech. call it something innocuous.

2.) Give Romans Michaelangelo someplace. Probably constantinople.

3.) Set the cities number-before-disorder waaaaaay down. Or the unrest factor waaaaay up. Or both.

4.) Event obsoletes Michaelangelo.

5.) Big trouble.

6.) Later in the game, another tech allows Cathedrals, which can be built because the Romans already have mono, and will, to some extent, allow the suppression of unrest. If the number of cities is reduced, say, by losing a number of them to invaders, then the empire will also be easier to govern and maintain.

This is too hideous at present to contemplate, but with a mechanism like this one, collapse via chronic & widespread unrest is almost inevitable. To keep order in the cities (and thus maintain income & military construction) the lux level will have to be through the roof, especially as the gov is dictatorship. The number combinations are variable too. It can be made worse by degrees, until a satisfactory outcome is achieved. I don't actually want to make things this difficult, but it may have to be done. The empire WILL decline, and it can be forced.

[curtsibling]

Is there any way to stave off these fading lights?

Or is tragedy unavoidable?

[Cyrion]

Re: Breakthrough

Originally posted by Exile
Cyr, have you gotten it yet? Sorry if I forgot. Been wild around here lately.

Yes, now I'va got the Italian files! I'll try it tonight!

[Exile]

Curt, what I'm going for is this;

A systems collapse that cannot be halted by any means that the player has. The purpose here is to leave the empire prostrate in the face of potential enemies, who will then attack and occupy regions and establish independent kingdoms.

Pulling all available trix, I CAN bring about a total systems collapse.

The trick will be to see whether the barbarians of various sorts will take advantage of such weakness and attack. This is a bizarre quandry, actually. My own experience with other civs (as opposed to barbs), and using MGE, is that they are treacherous, rabid, totally ruthless aggrssors. But in this one, they don't seem to be as active as I'd anticipated. I'm not at all sure the goto events I've put in function, so I might have to create more. I've still got to put in a number of 6th century events. This is truly the critical point of the scenario. Watching your large empire fall apart and watching new states appear in your old domains is only the first part of the scenario. The intention at that point is to model the era of Justinian, w/fewer cities. This is crucial and we're not there yet.

[curtsibling]

It will make an interesting adventure, for sure.

Perhaps bumping up the att/def levels of the barbs,
will change their tactics, but I am confident you can
force them to carry out your will!