Giving darwin a multiple....Benefit?

[atomant]

A few weeks ago it was noted that there may be a possibility that individuals in a multplayer game could use diplomats to steal technology which may preclude other civilisations from stealing technology from that particular city.

From a similar thought process, is it possible for a civilisation to build Darwins Voyage, gain the two free techs, then let your ally enter the city, thereby conquering it, and allowing them to gain the two free techs. Could this process be repeated continiously or does the benefits of Darwins accrue only once per civilisation?

[Peaster]

I am pretty sure that capturing Darwin doesn't get you any advances in SP, and I suppose it is the same in MP. [But I have never done it].

[Six Thousand Year Old Man]

I am pretty sure that capturing Darwin does not get you two free advances. Not 100% sure, but pretty damn close.

Now, Leonardo is another story... that definitely lends itself to being 'swapped' among allies for the free upgrades.

[Theben]

There's no benefit. Darwins can only be used once, although the AI will inform you of its capture if you take the city holding it and dont mod the .txt files to make DV 'obsolete'.

[Ecthy]

Does DV have the two tech effect if it is obsolete upon its building?

[Elephant]

I don't think there is any tech that will obsolete Darwins Voyage, so it is usually better to get it over with early before it might bring the AI something really valuable. The debate over one or two techs seems to get confused over it's effect - it grants you the tech you are working on plus one other, then lets you start on a third. Some players say they lose the accumulated beakers from the tech they are working on, so it is more like getting only one "free" tech. Whether trading 400 shields for a couple techs at a time when a decent science civ is getting a tech every one or two turns is debatable, but if there is spare building capacity it may be worth denying it to the AI.

[StuporMan]

There is also another school of thought that says you should let the AI build Darwin's and the turn before they build it, gift that AI all of your tech. In this way you are likely to get at least one good free tech to trade for, while not having to build the wonder at all.

StuporMan

[Elephant]

I tried that one several times playing OCC, and they always chose Communism and obsoleted my MPE. On the bright side, its a step toward Espionage...

[Theben]

Originally posted by Elephant
I don't think there is any tech that will obsolete Darwins Voyage...

There isn't, unless one mods the rules.txt.