I wanna make an Afghan Soviet war scenario

[communism]

Originally posted by typhoon
I just happened tofinish some Soviet troops in Afghanistan a few minutes before reading this thread. Talk about coincidence

Brilliant

Is it hard to make vehicles? Did the Afghan army have good weapondry, tanks and planes?, was it effective?

[Sarsstock]

Oh I wouldn't think you'd need to design most of the vehicles yourself Communism. We've come to a point in Civ II scenario making that I'm sure many if not all of the units you'll be needing have already been made.

I know for a fact that there are plenty of Soviet hellicopters, fighters and bombers... not to mention the boatloads of Soviet tanks available. I'm sure if you post a preliminary unit list with specific makes and models and perhaps a reference pic or two then the units will just come flooding in.

Also, I'm somewhat of a flag and unit shield graphic designer if your in need of some period flags as well.

[communism]

Oh I wouldn't think you'd need to design most of the vehicles yourself Communism

Sorry, its just that am not really good at drawing and designing vehicles.

heres the map I made though, it won't let me attach it though, because its designed to be opened with media player.

[communism]

Here it is

[Case]

Originally posted by communism
Did the Afghan army have good weapondry, tanks and planes?, was it effective?

Rather than rely on random bits of history, why don't you try researching the topic for yourself?

AFAIK, Lester W. Grau is the leading English language writer on the war. Quite a few of his articles (including some brief, but informative, histories of the war) are available online via the US Army's Foreign Military Studies Office and would make a good starting point. Check them out at: http://fmso.leavenworth.army.mil

[Harry Tuttle]

Toyota trucks

[typhoon]

IIRC correctly the Soviets would be using more or less the same kind of weaponry they would in Europe, with several exceptions. For example the more sophisticated tanks such as the T-72 and T-80 would not be present as they had a weaker suspension and could not handle the rocky Afghan terrain. So the mainstay of the Soviet Armoured divisions would be tanks such as the T-55 and T-62, with AFVs such as the BRDM, BMP, and some airdroppable tanks and self-propelled guns in use with the paratroopers.

We would also see a heavy reliance on helicopters like the US did in Vietnam. In this case we should expect to see use of the Mi-24 Hind as an attack/transport helicopter and the Mi-8 as a transport helicopter. As for aircraft, the Sovs made extensive use of attack aircraft like the Su-25 Frogfoot because of the type of warfare they were facing.

The Afghan National Army proably used the same kind of equipment, albeit less advanced.

The Muhajadeen, of course, basically fight on foot and horseback, or on Toyota trucks as Harry has pointed out.

[Jimmywax]

I believe the soviets also made extensive use of the Tu-22's and the Muj definitely need to be equipped with stingers.

[Broken_Erika]

were there any T-64's in use during the afghan war?
and here is a brdm2, made by jimmy, tweaked by me

[Broken_Erika]

Here are a bunch of sites on the subject

http://users.sedona.net/~strand/Nuristani/Kamkata/Kom/KomTexts/AnvarJihad.html

http://militaryhistory.about.com/cs/sovietafghanwar/index.htm

http://www.alternativeinsight.com/Afghan_War.html

http://www.da.mod.uk/CSRC/documents/Russian/A102/file_view

http://www.kansaspress.ku.edu/grasovforeword.html

http://www.aviapress.com/viewonekit.htm?ICM-35281

Hope they help, the last page is a model kit page but they give an idea of what vehicles were used in afghanistan, you just have to browse around a bit,

[Broken_Erika]

Here is a BMD-2 Airbourne fighting vehicle, these were used in the afghan war,

[communism]

Thank you people. What d'ya think of the map I made?

[Heresson]

What map?

[Broken_Erika]

Originally posted by Heresson
What map?

scroll up, i believe it is the .scn file,

anyways here are some btr 70's, made by jimmy, tweaked by me,
these were used by the soviets alot during the afghan war

[Heresson]

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