A couple o' things

[Theben]

Forgive me if this has been mentioned before, but I didn't see them in the GL, and don't recall ever seeing them before in a game:

1)Partisans built in a city that is taken or disbanded become NON-units;

2)Building Solar Plant alters city supply/demand. Specifically, oil was demanded and immediately changed to spices.


Any knowledge on these items would be appreciated.

[solo]

I don't know if Samson tested for solar plants, but I do know that the demand for oil is halved if you build mass transit or a recycling center. It would seem logical to include solar plants in this list and to assume that Samson overlooked them when conducting his tests.

[Elephant]

Interesting that Spices emerged ahead of Oil. I did not thing Spice was an easy one to generate demand for.

[Theben]

Actually I have to amend that. Oil was supplied by the city, but replaced with spices when the solar plant was built.

[Six Thousand Year Old Man]

Re: A couple o' things

Originally posted by Theben

1)Partisans built in a city that is taken or disbanded become NON-units;

I thought any units previously built in a city that was later captured, disappeared (unless rehomed). If not, that's a new one to me. Ditto for a city that's disbanded.

Or do you mean Partisans generated by an opponent's capture of your city? Those definitely stick around and are NONs.

[Theben]

No, I mean I built them like any other unit, they were homed on a city, and then said city was either captured or disbanded. The partisans stayed around and became NON- units.

[Six Thousand Year Old Man]

Originally posted by Theben
No, I mean I built them like any other unit, they were homed on a city, and then said city was either captured or disbanded. The partisans stayed around and became NON- units.

Cool. I'll have to try that; it could be a useful trick to rush a number of partisans in a poorly placed city, then disband it. Particularly in Republic or Democracy.

[Theben]

As an example:


And the next turn:


NOTE: Obviously it's a mod but I've had it for a while and it has always been stable- I've never seen any quirks from it outside the normal civ2 ones... also this is version 2.78.

[Elephant]

Makes sense, though - partisans are supposed to be "produced" when a city is captured/destroyed, which would break their support anyway; why not make them yourself?

Interesting terrain graphics, BTW. What's that horse thing SW of the city?

[Theben]

The horse is a horse, of course.

The 'thing' is a railroad.

I never liked buffalo as a special so I changed them back to what they were in civ1, horses.

[germanos]

Re: A couple o' things

Originally posted by Theben
Forgive me if this has been mentioned before, but I didn't see them in the GL, and don't recall ever seeing them before in a game:

1)Partisans built in a city that is taken or disbanded become NON-units;

[Theben]

Hmmm, maybe someone should test that with the original files to make sure it wasn't an aberration.

EDIT: It would appear that this is the case even with the original files.

[germanos]

Originally posted by Theben
Hmmm, maybe someone should test that with the original files to make sure it wasn't an aberration.

EDIT: It would appear that this is the case even with the original files.

tested with 'Cedric's patch' to upgrade 2.42 to MGE, I can confirm that partisans become NON's when their homecity is captured.

[Theben]

I find it difficult to believe no one else was aware of this. If someone reads this and knew beforehand, please post here.

[germanos]

Well, I must say that I build very few partisans in general. Their stats are not too great given all the other options available at that stage in the game.
And when I reach that stage, it's merely mopping up the resistance, and very few cities get taken

It is great though that after so many years new things are discovered.

*Theben gets an entry in the civII history books