The CARRIER slot . . . its properties?

[Exile]

What does the AI do when you assign one of its units to the carrier slot?

build/not build ?

fortify/not fortify ?

move/not move ?

anyone know this stuff?

thx.

[Henrik]

I think it'll just move it around. If it starts out with any that is, it won't ever build units in that slot.

[Exile]

So if I place a unit type in the slot, make it "nil,nil" the AI will NEVER build it?

. . . But it WILL be available for human players to build?

I've been doing some testing.

If you give these carrier-slot units to a civ at start of a scen and set their role to defense, they will fortify and stay there. If they are fortified, no matter where on the map, they will stay there unless destroyed, or unless a cease fire/peace treaty requires them to relocate. If there are two or less of these units in a city, they'll just fortify. If a third is sent there, again by ceasefire/treaty, the third one will then move and act like a ground unit, leaving the city. Nowhere in the test scenario did one of the AI players build one of these units in over 200 turns.

[Case]

No, AFAIK the AI is hard-wired to never build carriers. In the best part of a decades worth of playing Civ(!), I've never seen the AI build a carrier type unit.


edit: I just earnt my emperor-hood!

[Exile]

Yes, it seems that this is a neat way of using the Civ2 engine's quirks in my favor. Apparently, any unit in the Carrier slot;

1.) No matter its availability (nil,nil etc.) will NEVER be built by an AI.

2.) It CAN be built by a human player, however, and moved and used normally.

3.) If fortified at start of scenario, and AI-controlled, will NEVER move during the scenario, no matter whether it is fortified in a city, within a city radius, or far from a city.

4.) All this and it should have a movement value so that human-controlled units CAN fortify.

5.) But, because the AI won't ever move it, it can be an excellent defender unit for the AI.

Someone must have discovered this before now, but I looked in the Great Library and it wasn't there.

[Exile]

Oh, and . . .

Congrats Case, on your Emperor-hood.

When did Henrik get the Emperor-ship?

Wonder how far from it I am.

[fairline]

Re: Oh, and . . .

Originally posted by Exile
Congrats Case, on your Emperor-hood.

When did Henrik get the Emperor-ship?

Wonder how far from it I am.

1,580 posts to go old chap, judging by Emperor Case's 3000 posts

Congrats Case How many for Deity?

[Justinianum]

Originally posted by Exile
Yes, it seems that this is a neat way of using the Civ2 engine's quirks in my favor. Apparently, any unit in the Carrier slot;

But....do you mean "in the Carrier slot" or with the carrier ability?

[Case]

Re: Re: Oh, and . . .

Originally posted by fairline
Congrats Case How many for Deity?

10,000

Given my current posting rate, I'll earn my deity-hood at about the same time I reach retirement age

[Exile]

Justin, I mean in the Carrier SLOT.

In the Units.gif (or .bmp) where the carrier graphic is located in the default, non-scenario game.

NOT any unit given the carrier ability.

[kobayashi]

On a related note, does the AI ever base planes on a carrier (not from the carrier slot)? If so, does it use them(the planes)?

[Exile]

New report; Even if a unit is in the Carrier slot, if given a movement value, the AI WILL move them. Perhaps with further testing, we could find out under what circumstances, but I'm out of steam on this one.

Kob; I have seen an AI plane on a carrier, but it simply does not use them in any effective way.

[winterfritz]

Originally posted by Case
edit: I just earnt my emperor-hood!

After 'the best part of a decades worth of playing Civ,' I should hope so

Congrats Case