City on one-square island

[duke o' york]

I'd have thought that if you were aware that you could contribute camels to a building project, then it'd be pretty obviouswhat would be required, even though the city is on it's own. The clever thing here is to ensure that you have the boat in the city at the start of the turn, and the camels asleep. This way you can move one square out of the city, and then wake the camels to reenter it. If you move onto a boat then it costs all of your movement points so you'd use two turns moving the camels out onto a waiting boat and then back into the wonder.

[Bloody Monk]

duke,

That's helpful; and a good point. See how much better that feels.

Monk

[Elephant]

My point was prompted by a memorable experience trying to do an OCC on a great 4xWhale single tile island site. I'm sorry if it might have seemed obvious to others; it was just a "trick" of the game I had not realized before.

[rah]

Early on you may need more that one ship.
Moving 6 or 8 caravans out to come back with one ship that only carries 2-3, doesn't cut it.

[duke o' york]

OCC on a single tile island sounds a pretty serious challenge for the very reason that rah has pointed out. With the fact that you have to keep your triremes outside of the city in case they sink, then it would be very tough to build a wonder in one turn.

[Elephant]

Like I said, it was "memorable"...

I took a risk on the first Wonder, moving the trireme into the city at the end of the turn before the build, so I could go out with two, deliver them, go back in and reload, and go out again. The second time I tried that I lost the trireme at the end of the turn. Took me several turns to rebuild the trireme.

[Grigor]

Elephant - If your boat starts adjacent to the city, it can move in with its first move, load the camels, move out, unload the camels, go back to sleep. No risk of sinking is necessary.

By the way, I have long been fascinated by 1-city islands. Once I created an Easter Island game using the Pacific Ocean map. Of course, there were no nearby specials, just a 1-square hill in the middle of nowhere in the ocean. It was really hard do figure out how to make progress because the maximum production is 1 shield per turn until offshore platforms and food is scarce for a long time. By the time I had a caravel to get to Hawai'i, it was like 1300AD. I couldn't think of too many ways to play differently. One time I tried building Lighthouse right away, but it expired by the time I built it.

Perhaps when the Succession gamers are looking for the ultimate challenge they can dust it off.

[Scouse Gits]

Start mining the hill before you found - sounds fairly essential to me...

[Elephant]

Grigor: I was trying to get all 4 camels in the same turn...

[Scouse Gits]

... yes move -1 walk two camels onto ship adjacent to city, turn 0 walk camels into city - move ship into city slep two more camels, move ship out of city, walk camels back in...

There is a problem?

Stu

[Grigor]

Elephant - Ah, I see. Your choices for triremes seem to be restricted to: (1) Use 2 turns (as per SG1), (2) Use 2 boats, (3) risk sinking by parking the trireme in the city overnight, (4) wait till Nuclear Powered triremes and load 'em up twice...

[Julius Brenzaida]

Originally posted by Grigor

By the way, I have long been fascinated by 1-city islands. Once I created an Easter Island game using the Pacific Ocean map. Of course, there were no nearby specials, just a 1-square hill in the middle of nowhere in the ocean. It was really hard do figure out how to make progress because the maximum production is 1 shield per turn until offshore platforms and food is scarce for a long time. By the time I had a caravel to get to Hawai'i, it was like 1300AD. I couldn't think of too many ways to play differently. One time I tried building Lighthouse right away, but it expired by the time I built it.

Perhaps when the Succession gamers are looking for the ultimate challenge they can dust it off.

We already played something like that and it was real fun, starting in a pacific Island (samoa I believe) and using one of my gigaworld map. By the time we reached america, Mongols had mobile warfare and we had to fight about 200 armors in south Mexico.
The name of the succession game was : "The truest gift of the Gods", as we were given intellinge but no land !
You should be able to find it in the forum, it was, I believe in 2002.

One could imagine starting another one, especially if I manage to finish another gigaworld map