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What is it?
The Apolytoners Hall of Fame (HoF) is a list of people who contributed a lot to the community here on Apolyton. For example: Xin Yu was inducted in the HoF for his incredible strategy and MP contributions to the Civ2 section, yin26 for his fantastic work on 'The List' with suggestions for Civ3. Every member of the Hall of Fame has made great contributions to Apolyton and the Civilization community - these people and their accomplishments must be remembered by us all!
If you don't recognize many names you probably haven't been here very long and/or hardly ever post outside this forum - in that case this HoF might be a good opportunity to learn something about them. That is why this Hall of Fame was created: to remember and learn.
Periodically, we hold a vote for the Apolytoners who we think contribute the most to Apolyton, the ones who make Apolyton what it is. The winners shall be inducted in the Hall of Fame and their names will live forever in the annals of APOLYTON!
History
The idea for the Hall of Fame was born in late 2000 as an outgrowth of the old Apolyton Army and Apolytoner of the Season Contests, seeking to honor the people of Apolyton in a more meaningful and structured way.
The first edition was held in the Off Topic in December 2000 over a period of 3 days and is currently archived. The first election saw Markos and Dan, the owners and administrators of this site, and the first 10 posters inducted.
Since then, the HoF vote has been held roughly 4 times a year with 11-14 total members being elected every year. Up until August 2002, the vote was held only in the Off Topic forum - from that time on it has been posted in other sections (first in Civ3, later also in SMAC, CtP1-MP, CtP2, etc).
Special Thanks/Why we do certain things:
Ming for archiving the first thread and helping manage the thread in its early days.
As per suggestion by MOBIUS, the last vote's are carried onto the next votes.
As per suggestion by Solver, all previous votes are carried onto the next votes.
As per suggestion by Martin Guhman, December votes are extended till 6 days.
As per suggestion by Locutus, introduction revised.
December 2004 election's success means that future December elections be a minimum of 20 days long.
MarkG for creating the CivGroup in February 2005.
This edition
Welcome to the December 2005 edition of the APOLYTONERS HALL OF FAME
(4 Members to be inducted this session)
(Only 9 total will be elected this year)
You have approximately 25 days to vote [Until January 5th).
Please vote today and elect some of your brethren to join the historic Hall; consisting of such hallowed names as Adam Smith, DanQ, MarkG, Giant Squid, St Leo, Ming, Snapcase, samson, Locutus, oedo, rah, Alexander's Horse, and more.
So now is your chance to decide: who should be inducted in the HoF this time?
Table of Contents
I Introduction Post
1) What is it
2) History
3) This Edition
4) Table of Contents
5) Notice
II Rules Post
1) Rules for voting
2) Amendments
a) Purgings
b) Posthumous Inductions
3) FAQ
III Hall Posting
1) Hall of Fame Members
2) Alphabetical member list
3) Chronological member list (by date of induction)
4) Chronological member list (by registration date)
5) Information about the Hall of Famers
IV Current Voting
1) Current Standings
2) Who voted for Whom
POST 2
1) Rules for voting
Everyone can vote for 3 posters
Registered In/Before 1999- 4 points per vote
Registered In 2000- 4 points per vote
Registered In 2001- 3 point per vote
Registered In 2002- 3 points per vote
Registered In 2003- 2 point per vote
Registered In 2004- 2 point per vote
Registered In 2005- 1 point per vote
-You may not vote for yourself.
-All ¡¥frivolous¡¦ votes are thrown out.
-Giving your vote to someone merely because they ask is considered a frivolous vote.
No vote changing once you have voted for someone; unless you accidentally voted for someone already in the hall.
You may only vote once in the hall of fame (for 3 people) IF you try to vote more than once ALL of your votes will be made void.
Time Limit for voting is: 25-30 Days for this time.
2) Amendments
a) Purgings
Members will be purged from the voting rolls if they received 0 new votes in the month of election. This allows the hall to keep up-to-date, and keeps it from having to reset completely every month. Thus, the hall worthy posters will continue to gather votes day in and day out because their contributions to Apolyton are timeless.
b) Posthumous Inductions
In the regrettable case where a popular member has perished, the Hall of Fame has the ability to posthumously induct him/her into the hall based upon popular opinion. The first class of posthumous inductees (December 2003) included such forum greats as Tazidude, and Scouse Gits(2).
3) FAQ:
Trust me, an on-topicer will never win ¡§
What about Xin Yu? What about Velociryx? Both good posters who are currently in the hall!
And if you think that being interviewed by Solver is a prerequisite for an on-topicer getting into the hall- then I had best remind you of the election of Paul!
And remember, many of these ¡¥mostly-OT posters¡¦ used to be huge on-topic posters back around 1998-99! Ming for example, Giant Squid for another!
Disclaimer:
The Hall of Fame is based on whoever people vote for, and as Lazarus and the Gimp stated so eloquently: ¡§"The compilers of this list cannot rule out the possibility of inductees being a bunch of utter ****s" Thus. Please. Don¡¦t shoot the messenger.
Where is the Hall of Fame usually posted?
From December 2000 to August 2002, the Hall of Fame had only been posted in the Off Topic forums; with occasional forays into the Apolyton/Community section. However, nowadays you can find the Apolytoners hall of fame in the OT (main) Civ III (main) and with satellite threads that link into the hall of fame in the following sections: CTP II MP, AC-General, Alt.Civ section-„³Clash of Civilizations (b/c it has 2nd most posts in alt.civ), Civ III DemoGame sections.
Also, the Hall of Fame is currently lobbying to become a news item.
¡¨How long is voting?¡¨
Voting will continue for roughly 25-30 days.
In December; the time allotted for voting will be at least 22 days unless the corollary act is enacted and voting is done during Christmas time; in that case voting will be extended to 30 days in order to accommodate all traveling voters)
Why Do People who received no votes last time expire ?
Their votes expire and they are zeroed and kicked off the list because they were not found to be interesting at the time of the last vote or two. This is done so as to keep the hall clear¡K
This new process certainly keeps the hall current (a la Major League Baseball¡¦s Hall of Fame)
I was recommended not to carry over votes at all, but will continue that tradition, because we don¡¦t merely want ¡§flavor of the month¡¨ posters elected. The persons who should be elected to the hall should have contributed to the site over a long period of time.
POST 3
1) Hall of Fame Members
Apolytoners' Hall of Fame Members -74
December 2001 Adam Smith
December 2000 Alexander's Horse [The Apolyton Troll]
September 2004 alexman
December 2002 Asher
December 2003 Boris Godunov
March 2001 Boshko (AKA Zhu Yuanzhang, Dave Boshko)
December 2001 chegitz guevara
August 2002 Chris 62
December 2000 DanQ
December 2003 DanS
June 2005 DarkCloud
May 2003 DinoDoc
Spetember 2004 Dr. Nick (AKA El Awrence)
March 2002 Ecthelion
March 2001 *End is Forever* (AKA Iain Lindley)
June 2001 EVC (AKA Evan VonChristof) [The Apolyton Daffy Duck] (Now present as Thorn)
December 2004 Googlie
December 2004 Kramsib
December 2002 KrazyHorse (AKA Frogger)
December 2000 Giant Squid (AKA Celestion the God, Alexander the Great) [The Apolyton DL]
August 2005 Immortal Wombat
January 2001 Imran Siddiqui [ACS News Coordinator]
December 2003 Ixnay
March 2002 Jay Bee
March 2004 JohnT
March 2001 Lancer
March 2001 Lazarus and the Gimp (AKA: Ron Jeremy, Bugs ****ing Bunny, Trappist)
January 2003 Locutus
December 2000 Mao
December 2000 MarkG
August 2005 Master Zen
December 2000 MichaeltheGreat [Another OT Moderator]
December 2000 MikeH
December 2000 Ming [The OT Moderator]
June 2001 Monk
December 2003 notyoueither
December 2003 oedo
January 2003 orange
June 2005 Paddy the Scot
June 2002 paiktis22
May 2003 Paul
December 2000 Provost Harrison (AKA AI)
March 2002 rah [Yet another OT moderator]
December 2001 Ramo
December 2003 Reismark
December 2000 Roland
December 2004 Samson
March 2004 Scouse Gits
December 2003 Scouse Gits (2)
August 2002 Sirotnikov
December 2002 Slowwhand
December 2001 Snapcase
June 2001 SnowFire
September 2004 Solo
September 2004 Spiffor
June 2001 Starchild
June 2001 Stefu
January 2001 Stewart Spink
December 2000 St Leo
June 2001 SuperSneak
December 2003Tazidude
June 2002 TCO (AKA GP)
June 2005 Ted Striker
May 2003 Trip
December 2003 UnOrthOdOx
March 2004 War4Ever
December 2001 Wraith
March 2002 Velociryx
March 2002 yin26
December 2000 Yo_Yo_Yo_Hey
June 2002 Xin Yu
May 2003 Zylka
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2) No Dates; Alphabetically:
Adam Smith
Alexander's Horse
alexman
Asher
Boris Godunox
Boshko
chegitz guevara
Chris 62
DanQ
DanS
DarkCloud
DinoDoc
Dr. Nick
Ecthelion
*End is Forever*
EVC
Giant Squid
Googlie
Immortal Wombat
Imran Siddiqui
ixnay
Jay Bee
JohnT
Kramsib
KrazyHorse
Lancer
Lazarus and the Gimp
Locutus
Mao
MarkG
Master Zen
Michael the Great
MikeH
Ming
Monk
notyoueither
oedo
orange
Paddy the Scot
paiktis22
Paul
Provost Harrison
rah
Ramo
Reismark
Roland
Samson
Scouse Gits
Scouse Gits(2)
sirotnikov
Slowwhand
Snapcase
SnowFire
Solo
Spiffor
Starchild
Stefu
Stewart Spink
St Leo
SuperSneak
Tazidude
TCO
Ted Striker
Trip
UnOrthOdOx
Velociryx
War4Ever
Wraith
Xin Yu
yin26
Yo_Yo_Yo_Hey
Zylka
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3) Chronologically
MarkG Automatic Inductee
DanQ Automatic Inductee
Ming December 2000
MikeH December 2000
MichaeltheGreat December 2000
Mao December 2000
Alexander's Horse December 2000
Giant_Squid December 2000
Provost Harrison December 2000
Roland December 2000
Yo_Yo_Yo_Hey December 2000
St. Leo December 2000
Imran Siddiqui January 2001
Stewart Spink January 2001
Lancer March 2001
Ron Jeremy/Lazarus and the Gimp March 2001
*End is Forever*March 2001
Boshko March 2001
EVC/Thorn June 2001
Monk June 2001
Snowfire June 2001
Starchild June 2001
SuperSneak June 2001
Stefu June 2001
Adam Smith December 2001
chegitz guevara December 2001
Ramo December 2001
Snapcase December 2001
Wraith December 2001
rah March 2002
yin26 March 2002
Ecthelion March 2002
Jay Bee March 2002
Velociryx March 2002
Xin Yu June 2002
TCO/GP June 2002
paiktis22 June 2002
Chris 62 August 2002
Sirotnikov August 2002
KrazyHorse December 2002
Asher December 2002
Slowwhand December 2002
orange January 2003
Locutus January 2003
Trip May 2003
Paul May 2003
DinoDoc May 2003
Zylka May 2003
Tazidude Posthumous Inductee
Scouse Gits(2) Posthumous Inductee
oedo December 2003
Boris Godunov December 2003
ixnay December 2003
Reismark December 2003
UnOrthOdOx December 2003
DanS December 2003
notyoueither December 2003
JohnT March 2004
Scouse Gits March 2004
War4Ever March 2004
Dr. Nick September 2004
Spiffor September 2004
Solo September 2004
Alexman September 2004
Samson December 2004
Googlie December 2004
Kramsib December 2004
Ted Striker June 2005
DarkCloud June 2005
Paddy the Scot June 2005
Immortal Wombat August 2005
Master Zen August 2005
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4) Sorted by Year Registered
1998 (28)
Ming
MarkG
Imran Siddiqui
*End is Forever*
DanQ
Jay Bee
St. Leo
Snowfire
Starchild
rah
GP/TCO
Xin Yu
MichaeltheGreat
Giant_Squid
Monk
Reismark
Boshko
Stefu
ixnay
Adam Smith
DanS
Lazarus and the Gimp
War4Ever
alexman
Ted Striker
Stewart Spink
Yo_Yo_Yo_Hey
1999 (20)
JohnT (Mar 1999)
Paul (Mar 1999)
Velociryx (April 1999)
Lancer (April 1999)
yin26 (April 1999)
Googlie (April 1999)
MikeH (May 1999)
Mao (June 1999)
Wraith (Aug 1999)
DinoDoc (sept 1999)
Slowwhand (Sept 1999)
Dr. Nick (Sept 1999)
Ramo (Oct 1999)
Asher (Nov 1999)
Locutus (Nov 1999)
Scouse Gits (Nov 1999)
Tazidude (?)
Snapcase
Roland
EVC/Thorn (1999)
2000 (11)
Provost Harrison (Feb 2000)
oedo (Feb 2000)
Sirotnikov (Feb 2000)
orange (Feb 2000)
Ecthelion (Mar 2000)
Zylka (May 2000)
chegitz guevara (june 2000)
SuperSneak (June 2000)
DarkCloud (July 2000)
paiktis22 (Oct 2000)
Immortal Wombat (Dec 2000)
2001 (9)
Chris 62 (jan 2001)
Solo (jan 2001)
Paddy the Scot (Mar 2001)
samson (April 2001)
Frogger/Krazy Horse (may 2001)
Boris Godunov (aug 2001)
notyoueither (aug 2001)
Kramsib (Sept 2001)
Spiffor (?)
2002 (2)
Trip (april 2002)
UnOrthOdOx (June 2002)
2003 (1)
-Contribuited by Stefu
Snowfire - Great contribuiter to The List for Civ III¡K One of the threadmasters for the Civ III list.
Stefu - STEFU! Finnish OT-er! Very humorous. Check out his Faces of Apolyton Interview Here.
Adam Smith - Financial wizard. Economist. Used to be big in the Civ II sections; he now solicits financial advice in the OT.
chegitz guevara - Communist¡K You guessed it¡K Theben¡¦s brother. Currently lives in Florida. Well known for his remarkably Left-wing viewpoints.
Ramo - Another Libertarian/Anarchist. Yet Another Texan named Omar. Off-Topic debator.
Snapcase - Hacker, OT-er, and in charge of the Apolyton News.
Wraith - Social Libertarian. OT-er. Anime fan. MORE INFORMATION NEEDED
rah - Major Civ II Mper, brother of Ming and current moderator of the OT. He also posts in the Civ II general section.
yin26- - South Korean master of THE LIST for Civ III! Yin26 used to be moderator of the Civ III section until he decided that he didn¡¦t like Civ III¡K And for all newbies- you can relate his vitriolic statements about Alpha Centauri to Coracle¡¦s whining about Civ III! However, returning to the more important information: yin 26¡¦s listmastering tasks are not to be underestimated- he sorted thorough THOUSANDS of posts to find the best to submit to Firaxis in that huge 200 to 400-or-so page sacred document that is: THE LIST.
Ecthelion- - Deutsche-Spam. Prominent OT-er known for his humor. Formerly known as Andz83 and ChaosWarrior, Ecthelion originally posted in the Civilization II section. History happens to be one of his favorite topics.
Jay Bee- - Current moderator of the Spanish Civilization II section of the Forums. He is also the genial head of the Spanish Civilization II Site; an excellent site with many varied Spanish-setting scenarios. Jay Bee has been with Apolyton almost since its inception, being one of the first 4 people to register on the forums; right behind the venerable MarkG, DanQ and DarthVeda.
Velociryx - Current head of the Candle¡¦bre project, a project centered around creating a free 4x and massively multiplayer game a la Trade Empires. Vel is also the published author of a recently (July 2002) released Mystery. He also published a strategy guide for Sid Meier¡¦s Alpha Centauri and Alien Crossfire. He is a former AC-Fiction author and frequent AC-contributor. He was nce voted Apolytoner of the Season for the entire site. More information can be found in the Faces of Apolyon Interview by Solver
Xin Yu - Civ II strategy master and MPer. More information can be found in his Faces of Apolyon Interview by Solver
GP/TCO- Best known for his proponency of the ¡§Branching Thread¡¨ format; GP is a former Navy Crewman who happens to be a frequent debater and frequenter of the Apolyton Off-Topic; he has also, in the past, visited the Civ II section, giving hints and advice. Currently (as of Nov 2002) he is under one of his asked for ¡¥bans-from-Apolyton¡¦ so that he is not tempted to post
paiktis22- PLEASE CONTRIBUTE INFORMATION; Apolyton OT-er and former Civ III-ideas and Civ II regular.
Chris62 - He frequents the Spanish Civilization II, Scenario League, OT, General, Multiplayer website forums.
Sirotnikov Humorous. Defends Israel in the OT (since he lives in Israel). Mostly known for his OT work, although he does make some forays into the Civ-community
KrazyHorse/Frogger Large OT poster and debater... and sometimes poster in the Civ II sections
Asher Prominent and loyal Oter
Slowwhand OT and Civ II poster and Multiplayer.
Locutus CTP/CTP2 Ladder/MP, modmaking and CTP/CTP2 moderatorialship fame. Check out his Faces of Apolyton interview http://apolyton.net/misc/interviews/...utus.shtml¡¨>Here.
orange The poster of Apolyton Yearbook fame! A valued OTer and former civ II and CivIII-civilizations section poster!
Trip An honorable Demogamer, and the starter of the Civ III Demo-Game... as well as a major player in the Civ III PTW demogames and the ISDG... Trip embodies all things demogame. He also had some of the most popular Civ III scenarios; Civil War and Napoleoanic Wars.
DinoDoc Conservative debater in the OT. High Profile Poster. Been around and contribuited for a long time.
Paul CTP modder and designer as well as MPer. OCC God, he created many strategies for it. Paul is also the organizer of various football prediction leagues in the OT. A long staple of the community
Zylka One of those loveable OT-spammers/debators/flamers. The OT always loves their entertainiment. and entertainment is important in keeping users interested in the forums. Therefore, he deserves his position here.
old time Civ player who was a very active member of this site, and one of original Civ II PM players also be included.
Reismark Founder of the Hodadian Award Central, gifting awards to the best Civ-Sites on the Net and the best Civ II scenarios around! He also runs the Apolyton Fantasy Football Challenge and several other contests in the OT.
oedo Discoverer of the ¡§oedo years,¡¨ the discovery ¡§that the period of disorder in Civ 2 for revolutions follows a pattern, and by knowing this pattern, you know when to revolt to eliminate the period of anarchy¡¨ oedo is well known and respected in the Civ II-Strategy community for this discovery that taught those of us who ¡§thought we knew civ¡¨ that there was more to it than we ¡§thought we knew.¡¨
ixnay Humorous poster; Participant in the Civ II Democracy Game, he¡¦s a real whiz with photoshop and graphics; and happens to be the Rise of Nation¡¦s content editor... and is an Apolyton Staff member.
Boris Godunov Friendly OT debater. Much loved.
UnOrthOdOx For his work on the "Jungle Gazette" and other Democracy game publications... as well as his work on the democracy games themselves.
DanS OT Poster and debater. Armchair Economist.
notyoueither Civ III Democracy Gamer and consul in the Intersite Democracy Game. He is also involved in the Civ III multiplayer tourney ladder and can be seen in the Off-Topic as well as a multitude of other places on the Apolyton Civilization Site.
JohnT Former Apolyton Librarian, starter and keeper of the Apolyton SciFi book reading club, volumnious OT contribuitor, and former Civ II poster
Scouse Gits Co-founder of the Great Library project for civ II, Civ II strategist, Civ II poster
War4Ever Civ II MP-Player and occasional OT Poster, and Civ II poster
Dr. Nick Formerly known as El Awrence and Hodad, this Spanish Section Apolytoner was quite active in all of the Civ II sections and contributior to the Diplomacy games forum. He also frequented the OT in 2000 and provided fun in debates and other activities therein. He was also one of the founding members of the Spanish Civilization Forum. In recent years he has been most active in that section.
Spiffor Civ3 player and all round nice OT Regular. Also French... and you know how hard it is to find a respectable Frenchman...
Solo Solo has long been active in CivII strategy forum and is the author of the Early Landing Strategy Guide. In addition to that, he discovered 16 turn city cycles governing automatic changes in city commodity supply and demand lists, and discovered numerous techniques to manipulate city commodity supply and demand, along with other strategic contributions to the Civ II community.
alexman Renowned for his excellent civ III contributions, Alexman is generally considered a strategic Guru due to his essential formulae and his tireless work in the Apolyton University including helping develop the Apolyton University Mod. He is also quite active in Civ III PBEM and created the CTP utility ¡¥EasyMod¡¦
Samson Quality Great Library Contribuitor for Civ II and well-known civ II strategy researcher.
Samson quickly became the premier researcher in the Civ II community and authored numerous definitive studies on almost every aspect of the game. In particular, the depth of insight he displayed by his ¡§key civ¡¨ discovery and his unravelling of how commodity lists are determined was, to put it simply, just amazing. Having set numerous records in a wide range of single player games, he was considered by most to be the best player, too. -Writeup partially in thanks to solo.
Kramsib His greatest works have been carried out in the Spanish Comunity. He is the "Father and Protector" of Progressive Games, an amazing tournament for civers to play without multiplayer mode.
Here is an example of a Progressive Game: http://apolyton.net/forums/showthrea...readid=120672. He also created a Graphics Mod and a Combat mod for Civ III and is working on developing game-model theories based on Civ III's Corruption and Value theories.
Googlie A well-known co-author of the epic Spartan Chronicles for AC, AC-fiction in general, and expert AC Diplomacy gamer, Googlie helped set up the 12-game Forum Wars series of a couple of years ago between Apolyton, ACOL and Civgaming as well as a couple of dozen individual game challenges.
His love affair with SMAC goes back to old OWO forums and the demo release days when a bunch of us hacked the HEX editor to squeeze more than the 100 turns from that old demo version.
DarkCloud Deity of Lists and Civ3 Stories Editor, DarkCloud began the Hall of Fame in December 2000, and has run the Apolyton 100- a listing of over 100 apolytoners who have made the site what it is today, complete with biographical details such as location, place born, registration date, etc. He also runs the Apolyton: the Book website which contains anecdoes and histories about apolyton. He has been active in most diplomatic games at various times in their histories, but is best known for compiling the Civ IV list, posting AC-Fiction tales- running the Chiron Chronicle as GM for over a year, and running the Civ III stories section voting polls. He makes frequent appearances in Other Games, and in the Apolyton/Community section and loves Apolyton very dearly.
Paddy the Scot A proud member of Apolyton Storywriters' Guild, a player of the great game Civilization, and a staunch supporter of the Community of Apolyton. Most days he can usually be found playing a Civ III PBEM or hanging out in one of various Civ III Demo Game Forums, either leading a team, providing strategic advice, or just having fun and participating along with all the other blokes.
Ted Striker Frequent Off Topic poster. Former conservative American and Civ II player who used to contribuite to The Column and write news updates for the game- but now he is disillusioned with the USA and with Civ III, oh how do times change. Idolizes Robert F. Kennedy and is obsessed with the Miami Heat Dancers. "I'd hit it.
Immortal Wombat Well known for his CTP2 mod development, Immortal Wombat was Apolyton?s first perpetual Prince (though having over 4500 posts, he still retains the title). He now posts mainly in the Off Topic forum.
Master Zen A major Democracy Game player and Multiplayer for Civilization III, Master Zen seems to be everywhere- from the Spanish Forums to the Civ III, to everywhere in-between.
Tazidude
Posthumous Induction
Obituary Courtesy Ming
¡§Tazidude was a very active member of this site, and one of original Civ II MP players.¡¨
¡§He fought a long battle with cancer and passed away in January of 2000. While suffering with his illness, he used Civ II MP as an escape and a distraction. Even with death looking him right in the face, he continued to post and play... He was a friend to many... a great competitor... and it was truly sad when he finally had to leave the community because the pain got to be too much.¡¨
d. january 2000
Scouse Gits(2)
Posthumous Induction
Obituary Courtesy La Fayette
Scouse Gits(2), or Ivor Wason was primarily a Civ II MP gamer who succumbed to cancer in 2003. He was much loved and well-regarded in the Civ II community.
¡§I would like to say a few words about what Ivor brought us, because he was not only a witty writer and a very strong strategist, but also one of those who gave most to the community, much more than the smiling daily 'robust constructive criticism' that all of us will remember:
-Co-author of the most thorough study about starting techs (more than 5000 starts)
-Co-creator of Apolyton's Great Library¡¨
-'Very early lander', especially on big maps (samson and solo had almost specialized into small maps, when Ivor advised solo to have a look at some of his saves on bigger maps, and that was the starting point of solo's strategy guide)
d. september 2003
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