Time to Pick a Leader & Civ

[Dinner]

As a back up what do people think of Korea? We'd get the Hwacha, start with mysticism and mining, plus the UB is a more powerful (and double production since our leader is philosophical) university.

[mzprox]

korea is a sloid choice, I think that will be my pick as other civs are most likely taken by the time we get there.

[Dinner]

Zara of the Holy Roman Empire would have been good if out REXing everyone was our goal. As it is we have Liz but I really like her attributes (Phi, Fin) as they're the two strongest in the game so finding someone with a decent UU and who's UB is either a bank or a university seems key since we can build both of those at double speed. My only worry about Liz of Korea will be how long it will take to build courthouses especially if other players have the ability to build discount courthouses.

[DNK]

Well, as we have Liz, and knowing we're going for a delayed REX with high maintenance costs with barbs on and likely aggressive neighbors without much coastline, then:

1. India
2. Rome
3. Sumer/Aztecs/Korea

[OzzyKP]

Zara of the Holy Roman Empire would have been good if out REXing everyone was our goal. As it is we have Liz but I really like her attributes (Phi, Fin) as they're the two strongest in the game so finding someone with a decent UU and who's UB is either a bank or a university seems key since we can build both of those at double speed. My only worry about Liz of Korea will be how long it will take to build courthouses especially if other players have the ability to build discount courthouses.

Heheh, how long has it been since you've played civ? Financial hasn't given discounted banks for a very long time.

[OzzyKP]

1. Team WePlayCiv - Ragnar
2. Team Civforum.de - Inca
3. Team Apolyton - Elizabeth
4. Team Spanish Apolyton - Boudica
5. Team Civfanatics - India
6. Team CivPlayers - Darius
7. Team Realms Beyond
8. Team UniversCivilization
9. Team Civfr
(Choose remaining item out of civ or leader)
10. Team Civfr
11. Team UniversCivilization
12. Team Realms Beyond
13. Team CivPlayers
14. Team Civfanatics
15. Team Spanish Apolyton
16. Team Apolyton
17. Team Civforum.de
18. Team WePlayCiv

[mzprox]

Hmm aggressive charismatic.. I wonder if others go along on this path and choose warmongering leaders/civ.. it may make us universal target for them

[Hercules]

CFC has chosen India.

[Dinner]

Heheh, how long has it been since you've played civ? Financial hasn't given discounted banks for a very long time.

I was going from memory but I guess I'm just not remembering stuff clearly. :/

[Dinner]

Well, as we have Liz, and knowing we're going for a delayed REX with high maintenance costs with barbs on and likely aggressive neighbors without much coastline, then:

1. India
2. Rome
3. Sumer/Aztecs/Korea

The Pretorians are strong and the form would work with our specialist strategy as it increases great leader production plus the UU comes very early in the game when we're most likely to need it. I'm pretty sure one of the war mongers will grab it before our next round though.

[OzzyKP]

We've got a long time to go till it is our time to pick again. Seven of the nine teams will have picked a civ by the time we get to pick ours. So who knows what will be available.

[Hercules]

CivPlayers has chosen Darius.

This selection process is moving at quite a pace.

[OzzyKP]

Yea, the Germans took a while, but it has been a brisk pace since then.

[Hercules]

Just an observation from the last MTDGs I played in:

In the CFC game where I was in Team Merlot, early contact was crucial, tech trading was on. But the tech trading was not as important as the early alliance between Team Amazon ( Darius) and Team Sirius(William)

I agree with TMIT that establishing the tech alliances first will be the most important thing to do. Immortals can help us with this, because they are very tough against barbs so they are more effective at scouting for neighbors on land than the other early units. One of Kazakhstan's early errors was a failure to take advantage of chariots for scouting and barb-busting. It was probably the biggest factor that led to getting trapped in the bottleneck.

It seems to me that we should place a premium on early contact. In the last game, the first teams that met formed the more powerful alliance. I am betting that some of our rivals will be following the FIN techmonger strategy. With Cyrus, we will need to yoke ourselves to multiple techmongers quickly and then spread our cities with our IMP trait while they subsidize our tech. We can offer to be the "security" of the alliance, we offer the Brawn while they provide the brain.

Meeting our rivals fast, fast, fast is critical. If we are on the coast, as most team will likely be, we should send a scout workboat out almost immediately (maybe send one in the opposite direction as well). I can understand getting a worker and, maybe a second city first, but after that we need to send out the scouts. Then we have to prioritize getting a couple Immortals out to send scouting on land. Immortals are key, because with their defense capability, they will be much safer from barbs than a scout or warrior. At any rate, we have to meet our neighbors first, before our rivals do.

With any luck, the Map will be designed in a way that allows us to get a 4 team alliance that will overpower 2 of the other teams quickly.

In the earlier MTDG here at 'Poly, we met RB but had hesitated to meet with another team we could just see. RB met with them at our ultimate expense.

It is different in this game (with tech trade off) but I learned that early contact is crucial to forming alliances. Teams meeting tend to want to work together. (RB excluded)

[OzzyKP]

How many teams were in that game?