Destiny of Empires [Diplo Game] [Story Thread 11 - August 2011]

[Japan (DoE)]

After much consideration about the issue with China, Catherine decided to call a conference in St.Petersburg to which all the involved nations are summoned.

All the nations that have holdings in Asia:

Arabia,
Russia,
Mongolia,
India,
Japan

also:

Neandor (honorable invitation to the old King Veneta of Neandor, who is to speak up on behalf of the Axis)
Inca (The Inca Emperor is currently in state of war with China and thus have right on a vote)

The purpose of this conference is to be decided by democratic voting what the destiny of the Chinese territories will be. The decisions will be taken with a simple majority of the votes. The conference will be held in the next 3 days in a small and cosily conference room in Sankt Petersburg.

Representatives of all invited nations are expected to confirm their presence on the conference in short.

I Captain Yamamoto of squad 1 and head of the 13 court squads of Japan am saddened to say that I cannot attend the meeting in Russia. In my place I have entrusted Captains Byakuya Kuchiki and Kenpachi Zaraki to go in my place.

[Arabia2 (doe)]

Iran finds it strange that Russia calls for voting in a life and death war situation.. we for one would like to see that the Aztec restoration decided similarly and soon. But it will never happen and we will tell where is the big flaw in Catherine's "plan" : when nations are not equally involved they can not have equal votes. Which of us was ever reduced to 5 cities by the Chinese? Which of us lost millions of soldiers fighting against oppression by a "superpower" who thought they can do whatever they want? Well it was not Iran, not Inca nor the Axis, nor Russia. So Iran has no right to "vote" and force this vote's "democratic" solution on anyone, the whole idea is absurd.
There is however a consensus between nations that the best for chinese citizens is to let them governed by India and Mongolia and no one else. I'm confident that these two nations can agree on the details just by themselves, and there is no need to bring other continent's superpowers into this. Let those who are really involved decide in this matter for once.

Mahmoud A. Salam

[Ottoman Empire (DoE)]

Notice to All Concerned Nations:



I speak firstly on my own behalf and not on behalf of His Majesty The Sultan. I must point out the delicious irony and hypocrisy in the most recent statement released by President Abdus Salaam of Arabia. I will submit historical records in my analysis for reference. The Arabs now call for non-interference in the China matter... This is ironic, because, not too long ago, China was involved as a peacekeeper/enforcer in a War between India and Japan. There was a treaty in place, which involved all three nations, with myself moderating. The treaty was vioalted, and China said:

The Vikings have gifted Riflemen to the Indians, in strict violation of terms of the war agreement... If no reasonable explanation is quickly forthcoming, China will declare war on India and end this war for good.

To which India responded:

If you have matters to discuss with us regarding our agreement related to this war contact us through the Ottoman mediators.

Out of nowhere, without invitation or any cause for involvement, Arabia offered:

It saddens us to see what greed makes to once honorable nations. The Chinese got so low that they are now threatening, bullying those who are weaker instead of helping them. It is the Indians who had been attacked yet the Chinese only see this as an opportunity to grow even larger.
We ask those who have kept their integrity and able to stand against this superpower to do something to prevent the catastrophe. We are especially counting on the Noble Russians and Incas to step in and stop the Chinese aggression.

Clearly Arabia was not only seeking to involve themselves in a conflict that clearly did not involve them, but additionally, Arabia was clearly and manifestly, by their own words, trying to draw Inca and Russia into a Superpower vs. Superpower War against China.

I, as the mediator, attempted to mitigate the damage done by the Arabian provocation and insults to China. I did not respond to Arabia, because I hoped they would 'take-a-hint' and stop trying to force themselves into a conflict that did not involve them.

To China:

As the mediator of the Japan-India conflict, I must step forward and offer an explanation for this recent misunderstanding... we can speak privately on this matter and try to reach some alternative solution, but either way, we would ask China not to get involved yet, and to allow India and Japan to complete the War period as I believe they both intend to without further outside interference.

India responded to me, but not to Arabia... further illustrating that Arabia was not involved, nor encouraged or invited to be involved.

India has NOT broken any treaty and if in fact receiving the troops in question was a breach of the treaty then the Ottoman should have announced this to us when we told them so that we could postpone the transfer.

China wa persuaded not to attack by our negotiations, and the matter was concluded.

Out of great respect for the Ottoman peace keepers we will not unleash violence on India.

Despite the matter being resolved, Arabia continued to agitate and instigate, and insert herself in a matter that did not concern her:

We might not know history but we were presented with these facts:

-Japan has attacked India and took their cities
-Then came you, the superpower, threatening small India to accept defeat or you will destroy them.

I again tried to ignore your instigations, addressing only the involved parties, and encouraging you to help make peace rather than provoke violence.

To India:

[I] have heard your words and we find truth and reason in much of what you say... I accept responsibility for my oversight.

Therefore, I ask India to ... transfer the recently recieved Viking Rifles to Arabia until the end of the war period.

Instead of just agreeing to help, Arabia continued to add conditions to instigate conflict:

Arabia of course would accommodate those rifles until the end of war...We still haven't heard about the terms recently, I think that's more important question.

In fact, Arabia continued instigating conflict publicly, continually inserting themselves in a conflict that did not concern them.

Arabia is disturbed by recent events and by the lack of true peace negotiations... We ask: Is China involved in this conflict?... We are not interested in who wins the war. Arabia has one concern only and that is the true stability of the region.

China offered a simple explanation to the World community:

The ... Indians have clearly broken the treaty that was agreed upon... The penalty for a break in the treaty is Chinese military intervention, as explicitly stated in the treaty, which was agreed to by all parties, including India...With the permission of the international community and the treaty maker the Ottomans, China will begin scheduled attacks on Indian land improvements until India submits and makes peace with Japan.

India, you can avoid this by declaring peace with Japan. Until you do the attacks will increase in violence, first your lands, then your soldiers, then your cities.

But this was not good enough for Arabia, who continued to interfere, despite being largely ignored by all involved nations.

Leader of China,

We never saw any permission for this attack from anyone.. unless you took silence as a permission.

So anyone who thinks that the Chinese intervention is just and gives permission for the attack: speak up now! Ottomans? "inernational community"? We for one, as part of the community raise objection. (0:1 so far).

The point of this historical dissertation, is to point out the irony of the Arabians now calling for "non-involvement." All nations, including Russia seek to involve themselves in your conflict with China, just as you squirmed so mightily to insert yourselves into the Japan-India conflict.

Turkey supports India in this affair, and we support the Arabian right to assist India. However, we reject and condemn the Arabian's hypocritical assertion that the uninvolved nations should stay out of the conflict. We are a global community of sovereign nations, and we will all involve ourselves in the way we think is best.

Aysecan, Public Relations

[Arabia2 (doe)]

Dear Ayescan,

You are right in one thing: we were ignored. And do you see the result of your magnificent peace? A nation humiliated and broken saw no other way, but to fight against oppression even if that would mean their death. We feared something like this would happen, but did you listen to us?, no..
Now suddenly the whole world wishes to "help" India against China.. when the war is almost ended and wishes to decide what is good for them. Have you asked them if they want this?
And talking about hypocrisy: shame on you all when you refuse the restoration of Azteca by creating pity terms. You all express your desire for restoration, but do nothing save pointing on each other.

[Russia (DoE)]

In the halls of Kremlin an urgent meeting of the Russian Government was appointed.

"Comrades, please welcome the Chairman of the Russian Communist party - our comrade Catherine."

Catherine closed her eyes for a second, holding her breath for concentration, put order to her already perfect hair, stroked out few not existing pieces of dust from her clothes and entered the meeting surrounded by her female bodyguards.

She calmed down the applause as she took her place and started to speak with voice surprisingly strong and confident for such a young and fragile looking girl:

"Your Right Reverend Russian Patriarch and Christian Pope Cyril, Prime Minister Yosif, Major Natasha, Generals, Comrades... Russia is experiencing difficulties. The latest reports have shown that our GNP is fifth in the world and Krasnaia Armia is no longer the mightiest - she is the third or fourth in power in the world. The world we knew it till now is no more. The world is moving forward. The world is changing. We certainly have problems. And we now face new challenges. But I think we can manage this. So we must take measures. I want all of you to support me and act as one. Here is what I want you to do ..."

All the present elite of the Soviet Russia with faces drawn features were focused like hypnotized on the Catherine's tiny figure.

[Ottoman Empire (DoE)]

Notice to Arabia:

In my talks with the Sultan, it is my understanding that he has no wish to "decide what is good" for India. And Turkey has never expressed any desire to tell India what to do. India directs her own destiny. Why would I "ask them if they want this?" Want what? I did not suggest any summit on the division of Chinese lands, nor was I invited. Your accusations are misplaced.

Further, I reject your notion that my negotiations caused this current war. Our negotiations saved India. India has lived to fight another day, to fight China, mono-y-mono to obtain the lands India felt China had wrongfully taken, precisely because of the treaty that was brokered. Throughout negotiations, I stressed this point to India, over and over, that they would be better off living to fight another day... and so they are. You have no idea what you are talking about... once again.

Without that peace treaty, India would have been destroyed by a combined Japanese, Chinese assault. Instead, the leadership of China retired to their country estates to slumber, feeling secure in the peace, or their military leaders committed sepuku feeling they had no purpose in life. And this paved the way for India to be reborn as a nation of Fire and Steel. War was not my wish, but the survival of India always was. Your attempt to paint me as the cause of the current war is baseless.

This war was about India taking revenge. Now Arabia is using it as an opportunistic chance to remake Asia with herself as the center of power. Again, I have no quarell, with this, and I doubt that the Sultan has any personal quarell with this, although I am not yet authorized to make an official statement on what the Sultan feels personally. I have only been given a mandate to deliver Turkey's new policy on this matter.

So I announce that the Sultan, after much deliberation, has decided that Turkey will adopt as official policy, the tenets contained in Chapter 1 of The Great Treatise of International Law,
specifically, it shall be the policy of Turkey not to make conquest-oriented War on lower ranked nations. Accordingly, Turkey approves as lawful, India's effort to conquer land from China, as China is ranked higher than India.

Aysecan, Public Relations

[Arabia2 (doe)]

Ayescan,

You have criticized our stance in the current situation, that's why we explaineed it a bit more. You know very well that we did not accuse you with interfering that part was aimed on those who wish to do that.
You say you have "saved" India with your peace, I doubt they see it this way. China had no right for intervention, everyone knew that, but they were encouraged by nations like yours who thought "local superpowers" have self manifesting rights to do whatever they please. If you and others had joined us to tell China to stay out, they wouldn't had interfered and India and Japan could had found a more balanced peace (just a reminder: Japan would had accepted to give some colonies back as part of the peace, then came China and India lost all his position to fight back or negotiate).
Iran's only wish is to have a viable nation reborn on the ruins of two. For this we have sacrificed a lot and we decided to keep nothing for ourself becasue it wouldn't be right.
Anyway, it seems we can never find full agreement, but I'm glad that at least there are principles we can agree on. Like your opinion on India's right in this war and in theory we also agree with the things written in the the Great Treatise of International Law . We just would like to see something like that followed in practice...

Mahmoud A. salam

[Inca (DoE)]

Inca (The Inca Emperor is currently in state of war with China and thus have right on a vote)

Dear Russians,

I will be attending, of course, as I am currently in Moscow. I will decline my ability to vote, however, as our role in the war is merely a supportive one, assisting in pacifying the seas and clearing the beachheads for invasion forces. In fact, having succeeded in these tasks, the joint command for the ICC and IAC have decided to return their units to Incaco once some final business is taken care of in the Indian Ocean. I will be happy to add Inca's thoughts into the discussion and act as a participant and observer.

Regards,
Ambassador for Eurasian Affairs
Deputy Secretary of the Inca Foreign Service (IFS)

[India (DoE)]

India will send a representative of the Indian People's Army.

[Russia (DoE)]

Ladies and Gentlemen, I am Josif V.S. - the First Minister of Russia and I am appointed to lead the conference for the future of China.

First I want to ask all the military actions in China to be ceased for the duration of the conference. This is to not tempt anyone to stall the discussions to give time to conquer.

Then I will put the first clause to discuss. Who will get parts of the Chinese heritage. Russia thinks that India, Mongolia and Japan must be those nations to get parts of the Chinese heritage. The proportion of who gets what are still to be decided. Now we want to hear opinions about the first clause, so we can move faster forward.

[Arabia2 (doe)]

1, Iran will cease the liberation of the Chinese cities IF given 1000 gold per turn to be compensated for the cost of maintaining her army outside her territory and for the possible loss of extra soldiers because of new Chinese recruitment.

2, Iran's opinion is that being neighbor of China is not a right in itself to claim "gift" or prize. Our vision is to create a balance in the region, which will last for this time.

Things to consider:
-Iran has 10 cities, 17th population of the world, lost in the war dozens of soldiers and thousands of gold.
-India has 6 original cities, two of them recently conquered by China, ALL of them slaved and drafted so much that it will take more than a hundred turn to recover. India has lost 4 cities in the previous war and China played a big role in that.
-Mongolia has about 10 cities. I don't know too much about them otherwise. Their science is not so great, they haven't yet recovered from the atrocities of ancient wars.
-Japan has 21 cities, did not lose any soldiers/gold in the recent war. Gained 4 colonies from India with the help of China.

So.. Iran's priority to create a balance and first of all a viable nation where currently there are ruins. What we think is best and fair:

India will get 4 Chinese cities and land to settle 2-3 more.
Mongolia will get 3 cities bordering her land.
Japan get to settle the Chinese territories outside the main land.

[Russia (DoE)]

Congratulations for the well - balanced offer, Mr.Salam. It is far more reasonable than your initial plans all of China to go to India. In fact, your latter proposal has so much in common with the unofficial Russian position on the case.

Here is a map on the region with marked in colors settlement:

[Japan (DoE)]

Japan is not after much. We only want the Chinese capital of Beijing and to city closest to our mainland borders Chengdu. After that we do not care about anything else.

[Japan (DoE)]

Congratulations for the well - balanced offer, Mr.Salam. It is far more reasonable than your initial plans all of China to go to India. In fact, your latter proposal has so much in common with the unofficial Russian position on the case.

Here is a map on the region with marked in colors settlement:

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I think you need an updated map.

[Germany (DoE)]

Neandor is very happy that our initiative in foreign affairs to quell the Chinese threat by breaking her up in to Asian components is progressing well by diplomats Arabia, Russia and Japan. Let's hear from Mongolis too?