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[Babylon (DoD)]

The Messianic Warrior entered the underground chamber in the mountains now used by the Great Conclave as its meeting room, a necessary precaution since the Egyptians began their indiscriminate bombing of civilian cities.

"What news great warrior?"

"Good news my Lords. The Egyptian marines army recently invaded the one main island remaining to us in the north, establishing a naval and bomber base to threaten northern Hindustan. They seized a first city and arrogantly set up their extermination camps, imprisoning the population and landing many bombers, establishing a naval base, and landing their tanks. The fools. The people of the island rose up, and won a herioc victory. Women and children seizing rifles, overrunning the Egyptian military lines, destroying tanks, burning bombers on the runways, destroying the naval base. The gods truly led the assault, proving once more that Egypt arrogance and technology cannot prevail for ever. The Egyptian losses were massive - tanks, bombers, fighters, shipping. The northern Egyptian marine force is destroyed. Northern Hindustan is free once more."

"In the south, the stalemate continues. The southern marine force contines to seize Hindustan cities, for wherever they choice the concetration of bomber power from the air is impossible to resist. But they cannot hold them, as our forces emerge from the countryside and remove the vermin. "

"But what news of other nations, my Lords?"

"Good news great warrior. The world is gradually realising how they were lied to by the Egyptians. That there was never a change of Hindu dominance of the world and that all the arguments the Egyptians originally used to other nations are disproved by their continuing attempt to seize Hindu cities - the world is realising that the Eygptian greed and lust for power will never be satisfied - arguments to justify the seizing of one city, are stretched for justifying seizing four, fail when seizing seven, and are ludicous when trying to seize 12. Your bravery has given the time for the world to recognise Egypt's true soul - the devil has been unmasked.

You will not fight alone for much longer. Hell awaits the Egyptian invaders."

The Messianic Warrior nodded, knowing he knew more than the conclave itself given the detailed planning session with the foreign generals he had just emerged from, and left back into the city braced for another punative air raid.

[Babylon (DoD)]

((after I've finished my turn I have realised that I left my city vulnerable.. stupid mechanism that troops in transports cant defend themselves.. but it was too late to do anything the turn advanced.. I'm just saying I knew what would happen but you will pay for it Babylon :P ))

Always tricky isn't it. Load the troops into the transport so you can use them in another amphibious asault supported by bombers to seize another city, or dig them in to defend what you have. Looks like you chose wrong this time, but if the gamble worked another Hindu city would have fallen, so my sympathy is limited!

[Egypt (DoD)]

It ws not a gamble, but a temporary oversight.. as I have said I knew this would happen.. though I hoped you might do a mistake too

[Babylon (DoD)]

Fair enough. I certainly made some bad ones earlier putting troops into defending cities where you would just bomb them so severely that you would then win the combats with no losses. How many men did I throw away! Its proving a very very instructive war!

[Egypt (DoD)]

The Desertlord read the report: 4 aircrafts mostly bombers, 3 infantries and a transport unit has been destroyed without a fight... a grave mistake and worse of all.. the general too died so there was no way for punish him for this deed ((I blame my senility.. I realised that Babylon could attack my city, then later I forgot about it and loaded my transport anyway, after some time later I remembered that I should not had )).

Egypt also got report about the Babylonian propaganda.. old stuff only.. they did not try to dismiss our facts about how close they would be to DV if the cities were given back and accusing Egypt with expansionism while we would had support Rome's plan that Egypt gets no cities.. and even before that Egypt demanded only 3 former viking cities from the 34-many of that gained by conquest by Babylon. Egypt has 19 cities, so who is really expansionist?
And Egypt seeks peace with everyone, in contrary of Babylonian propaganda we made great succes securing peace with other nations.

[Babylon (DoD)]

Desertbrain you lie.

When all Hindu cities return to Hindustan - and they are Hindu cities every city you have seized every one was settled by Hindu settlers. When all Hindu cities are returned there would be NO POSSIBILITY of a Hindu DV. You know this. You have said yourself publicly that the only possibility of a Hindu DV is if, as you threatened you would do if any nation challenged you, you give native Egyptian cities to Hindustan.

Before the war, as you admitted, a DV was still not possible, though admittedly it was close. But now, even when all Hindu cities are returned, because of the great destruction you have brought on the Hindu people, the extermination camps, the repeated invasions and bombings all designed simply to kill civilians - because of all that there is no possibility of a Hindu DV.

Therefore your argument that this is about a Hindu DV is manifestly false. Therefore it must be about something else. If it is not about lust for power, or punishing me because I wasn't prepared to hand over my armies for you to use against ROme, or my scientists for you to use developing nuclear weapons against Russia, then what is it about?

[Egypt (DoD)]

Before the war, as you admitted, a DV was still not possible

You lie, Egypt has never said this...on the contrary.. we started this war because DV was a certainty for the next vote...(remeber.. 8 votes were missing, more cities converted since then, biology..etc.. I won't repeat myself again)
If we just gave back these cities then they would grow back and the world would be endangered again.
Your arrogance, your desire for world domination destroys your own nation.. and you don't care about your people anymore.. fine..but the more this war costs to Egypt the more difficult it will be to turn back and find peace.

Desertlord

[Robert]

Guys, I'm off to Paris this weekend (till sunday late).
I'll take my laptop, but I'm not going to be connected a lot, and perhaps I won't even be able to connect at all.

Ozzy knows how to get on my server, he can fix things if needed. Thus contact him if you need a pause / reload / timer increase / etc.

[Babylon (DoD)]

Keep spouting Desertbrain. We admire how you managed to convince many nation with your lies, but I think you will find that gradually they are realising the truth.

And your suggestion that the Great Conclave doesn't care for Hindu people is ridiculous. It is because we care that we will not leave any citizen of Hindustan in your slavery. You, it appears, think what rulers do is trade away their own people for their benefit. We do not - we will fight to save all hindustani's from your extermination camps and slavery.

[Babylon (DoD)]

"Its what is called racism" explained the teacher to his class of teenage pupils.

"You see many other nations are obsessed by race, by the ethnic background of people. In some nations of this world people are disciminated against because of the colour of their skin"

"But that is laughable - thats wicked" replied the class.

"Yes but that is because we have something greater than race - our common religion. We are Hindustan - some of you are pale faced - from the north, from the old viking nations, some red-heads from the east, some darker skinned from the Western coastal cities, some darker skill from the Islands. But we are united as one brotherhood, one umma, because of our faith"

"So other nations don't have that?"

"No, and therefore they don't understand. They think that the Great Conclave is still some form of Babylonian Empire subjugating other nations"

The pupils laughed. "But the Babylonian empire fell 500 years ago in the great purification. Do other nations really still believe that we are motived by race? That the Great Conclave values Hindus of one skin colour more than another?"

The teacher nodded, "Yes truly they do. For those without faith find it impossible to understand those with it. Because they are obsessed by nationality and race, they think only in those terms, and assume we must do to. They cannot conceive of that fact that Hindus in the islands feel part of one family with hindus from the west coast, the mountains and the tundra."

"Does it matter sir?"

"It is unfortunate, for it means other nations pursue strange lines of diplomacy assuming they can rely on racism and discrimination between different parts of Hindustan. But what matters most is that the Messianic Warrior and his forces are made up of Hindus of every race fighting for the savlation of the whole umma."

[OzzyKP]

*ahem*

1. Save game
2. Send to: alex at oneandfour.org
3. Give me a password

Thanks.

[Byzantium (DoD)]

save

Justinian I AD-1752.CivBeyondSwordSave

will PM password (can not use email at moment)

[OzzyKP]

Thanks!

[St Jon]

Bit of a faux pas there Robert.

[Robert]

Bit of a faux pas there Robert.

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