The Dance of Civilizations [Diplo Game] [Organization Thread Pt1]

[Russia (DoC)]

I used the Russia (doc) account album upload. the pics display in my chrome browser just fine. but as far as I can tell not in other browsers. has Russia not posted a single picture until now?? cause if I haven't then that is some seriously massive detriments to my storytelling.
(insert extremely angry swearing here)


PS, feel free to move these posts to the org thread....

[Byzantium (DoC)]

Someone set up a clever way at the beginning of the game for none-techies like me. Go to http://apolyton.net/forums/local_links.php?catid=435 upload your pic and then it gives an apolyton url you use in your post. Works for me.

[Russia (DoC)]

question: where do you store your pics? when I store them in my apolyton albums they don't work
had to go make a flickr account.

I just realized that all my previous posts, with all the cool pics I've dug up are not showing

[Byzantium (DoC)]

Russian - I just use the go advanced button at the bottom here, and then click on the insert image button and give it the url when i want imagine. Not clever with tables like many of the folks, but it does teh job with no writing of HTML coding.

[Russia (DoC)]

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[Orb (DoC)]

[India (DoC)]

Yah, I've never understood why you calculated averages before the ratings, now I see.

[Robert]

Here is my suggestion btw: non voters get -1 point/day untill they vote or something like that. this way they have to vote sooner or later anyway

I like that idea
It must be said though that everyone is way more active voting-wise then in BtP!
2 voting rounds, 29 out of 30 votes casted!

in an example: 1 category, A-B-C civs, C doesnt vote A-B gives an average 4points.

A gets : 4
B gets: 4
C gets: 4+4-4 (penalty)=4

If A-B civs give more than 4 in average then the non voter actually gets relatively better score than the voters.

Your suggested -2 penalty clearly rewards non-voters

A got 4 points from 1 voter = 4 avg
B got 4 points from 1 voter = 4 avg
C got 8 points from 2 voters and 4 points penalty; = 2 avg

The 2 alternative makes it a 3 avg. (4 + 4 - 2 = 6 / 2 = 3)

You only looked at the total number of points.
But the average is decided upon the total number of voters.

[India (DoC)]

The penalty is that the non-voters lose 1 'average vote' in every category

How so?

in an example: 1 category, A-B-C civs, C doesnt vote A-B gives an average 4points.

A gets : 4
B gets: 4
C gets: 4+4-4 (penalty)=4

If A-B civs give more than 4 in average then the non voter actually gets relatively better score than the voters.

Your suggested -2 penalty clearly rewards non-voters

Btw I don't really care, I'm just bored as usual and I wonder what would be the most balanced way to do this.

Here is my suggestion btw: non voters get -1 point/day untill they vote or something like that. this way they have to vote sooner or later anyway

[Robert]

The penalty is that the non-voters lose 1 'average vote' in every category, which is quite a punishment but not a deadly one.

I do feel guilty this time for not making the vote link change clear. Neither did I send out any "vote period is almost over" warning.

I was busy fixing my server and keeping the game up.
I'm discussing the final penalties with WarningU2 now. (I think it's fair that this is being decided by two people rather then by 1)

Persia, we received your vote after all.
England/Rome: apart from receiving your votes we are now looking into your excuse, which is at least fair in the light of what I said above. Certainly regarding England who made clear several times that he didn't know where to cast his votes.

Greece, please let yourself hear

[India (DoC)]

hmm actually giving a thought how 'non-voting' affects the score:

those who don't vote, but receive votes from others improve their own rating in all category-that is not fair.
I'm not sure how the current punishment system balances this-if I understand rigth it does the same thing to the ratings as if the non-voting player would had given everyone 4s in all category.-which is actually not a punishment at all.

My point is that it needs more thought because the current system is not perfect-maybe there isn't one-

[India (DoC)]

I think some penalty is fair, even with that people don't take it seriously at all. But maybe it should only affect attitude rating, it has nothing to do with stories and such.

[Rome (DoC)]

I finished my belated vote. I don't think a penalty is completely fair though, since the voting page was unresponsive since friday. I tried the old link for a couple of times until I figured out that that was wrong (when did this change? Must have missed it) but the new one was also giving me trouble.

[Robert]

@Russia: I don't think you lost a turn.
@Persia: I've asked WarningU2 to look into it.

[Persia (DoC)]

I did vote!
Does that mean my votes did not arrive?