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  • #31
    Why even make it a choice from pre-determined options. The most flexible thing would be like the way it was in Civ II where the timer was set by the players. There is almost an underlying attitude in Gamespy that if you don't play blazing you are a wimp. I think it would be better if people agreed on turn times without labels

    Having said that, what I've read here is "99% of the time I finish" - "95% of the time I finish" - "I usually have no problems" etc etc etc. Well I fall into that category too. Put another way, in a 100 turn game I will have 1 -5 turns where I have trouble finishing. The problem is the most important turns usually are the longest ones. Thus the most important turns are rushed or go unfinished.

    Lets say there are 4 players. Each one of them is a competent blazer like you guys. 5% of the time they need an extra 20 secs. (middle of a war - crucial diplomacy etc) Assuming the turns that need additional time don't overlap, which is unlikely, that means that in a 100 turn game you would need 20 turns that went an extra 20 secs. That's an extra 6 mins and 40 secs. People spend more time than that arguing about the timer and settings.

    I personally don't mind adding 6 mins every hundred turns if it increases the quality of the game by allowing the most important turns to be finished. I wouldn't even mind adding 10 mins.

    The best however would be allowing the players to set a timer and possibly a predetermined incrementer every so many turns.

    Possibility, I'd be happy to play you a standard sized game with a medium turn timer, if for no other reason, so you can see for yourself that the game will get just about as far along.

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    • #32
      Our hardcore HOTWV game has 9 players and we play marathon speed. in addition we only play once a week and due to tech problems we havent even played every week. very demanding, but also very rich and rewarding. you get close to your civ. I feel its all worth it.

      However we started a backup game and played to 400 AD in one single session with 5 players on epic speed. it doesnt have to be as long as ours.

      Regardless, the new diplogame that is starting up will likely, at least hopefully, go much faster without technical problems. with some likelyhood we can possibly finish in as little as 6-8 sessions. Feel free to join in anyone, if you're willing to stay the race.
      Diplogamer formerly known as LzPrst

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      • #33
        just seems 2 me the majority of players on internet games are ADD age of empires types...always gotta be on "blazing" (oh i hate that...lol) and when they start getting their butts kicked whine about u taking too much time...

        had one going tonight where 2 of them teamed up on me...by the time i got myself together and turned the tide they were whining to high heaven about how slow i was...especially the more i beat them...

        oh well - anyone with an attention span greater than a gnat like to play? also, is it possible to start a simultaneous game the switch to pbem mode? lost my manual...seems that could work nicely - get all the early turns out of the way then relax for some nice strategy withot the idiotic "i'm getting bored" messages when u show some real strategizin'...lol
        "Please don't go. The drones need you. They look up to you." No they don't! They're just nerve stapled.

        i like ibble blibble

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        • #34
          check out the diplogame threads...
          Diplogamer formerly known as LzPrst

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          • #35
            Originally posted by bigvic
            just seems 2 me the majority of players on internet games are ADD age of empires types...always gotta be on "blazing" (oh i hate that...lol) and when they start getting their butts kicked whine about u taking too much time...

            had one going tonight where 2 of them teamed up on me...by the time i got myself together and turned the tide they were whining to high heaven about how slow i was...especially the more i beat them...

            oh well - anyone with an attention span greater than a gnat like to play? also, is it possible to start a simultaneous game the switch to pbem mode? lost my manual...seems that could work nicely - get all the early turns out of the way then relax for some nice strategy withot the idiotic "i'm getting bored" messages when u show some real strategizin'...lol
            Yes you are right that Civ4 is a bit of a victum of it's success, and that we've attracted alot of the AoE3 kids. But that is one reason we made Civ4players, and the reason people join the Ladder, we tend to filter out most of the idiots after a while.

            CS
            Global Admin/Owner
            Civilization Players Leagues
            www.civplayers.com
            http://steamcommunity.com/groups/civplayers steam://friends/joinchat/103582791431089902

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            • #36
              then how did you get in canucksoldier?
              Diplogamer formerly known as LzPrst

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              • #37
                Bigvic and others interested - I am in the Gamespy lobby quite often weeknites under the name DeityDude. Either look for ma and add me or look for my game, it is usually titled: "DD's game - NO TT or BLAZERS"

                On Saturdays read the post RAH's Saturday games. It's a 1 session FFA, usually standard map with no timer.

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                • #38
                  oh cool - an oasis of "serious" gamers...i should have come here first - lol

                  thanks for the tips

                  how do i hook up with u guys? i guess a little more digging will answer my own question...

                  again thanks

                  i DID find one with some patience the other night...

                  i was playing the arabs and he the mongos - he got a tech lead and i took him down with hordes of camel archers, catapults, macemen and finally a few grenadiers vs. his grenadirs, riflemen, machinegunners, and cannon...how satisfying...
                  "Please don't go. The drones need you. They look up to you." No they don't! They're just nerve stapled.

                  i like ibble blibble

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                  • #39
                    i go in under the name "ibbleblibble"
                    "Please don't go. The drones need you. They look up to you." No they don't! They're just nerve stapled.

                    i like ibble blibble

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                    • #40
                      oh - how does one get in the ladder?
                      "Please don't go. The drones need you. They look up to you." No they don't! They're just nerve stapled.

                      i like ibble blibble

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                      • #41
                        go to the ladder page and register...



                        think this is it. or one of them at least.
                        Diplogamer formerly known as LzPrst

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                        • #42
                          or just post your interest in



                          we'll find you.
                          an icq number would facilitate matters but not required.
                          It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
                          RIP Tony Bogey & Baron O

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by LzPrst
                            then how did you get in canucksoldier?

                            I'm a founding idiot I was one of the original Admins within the 3 weeks after Play the World was released. Civ4's release has alot of similarities to that time, except that we are more prepared but the number of new players is much higher than for PTW.

                            CS
                            Global Admin/Owner
                            Civilization Players Leagues
                            www.civplayers.com
                            http://steamcommunity.com/groups/civplayers steam://friends/joinchat/103582791431089902

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by bigvic
                              oh - how does one get in the ladder?
                              Yes just look at the links in my sig. If you want a invite you can fill out the form linked to the "Free Signup" link on the ladder web page, or email me directly at csoldier@telus.net , and I'll send you a invite.

                              CS
                              Global Admin/Owner
                              Civilization Players Leagues
                              www.civplayers.com
                              http://steamcommunity.com/groups/civplayers steam://friends/joinchat/103582791431089902

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                              • #45
                                I assume you know I was joking CS
                                Diplogamer formerly known as LzPrst

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