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  • On the other hand, this part of my attack will be more assuredly successful.

    5 Bombers, 6 artys, 12 Modern Armors (with more coming) - roughly 2/3 Barrage 2 or 3, and 1/3 City Raider 2 or 3, 6 SAM Infantry (half guerilla 2 and half city defense 2), and 4 gunships (all combat I+pinch).

    Elizabeth has about 3 SAM Infantry and 3 Mech Inf per city, with a couple of artillery scattered about, and a few redcoats. Easy pickings (Of course, i'm going to need a few more modern armors and whatnot, but they're being produced en masse, and notice my gold % ... I can BUY about 4 new modern armors a turn. )
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    • First turn went so-so. I took out tokyo (1 turn away from SS thrusters #2 ...) fine, no losses; but failed to get anything to London that turn, because they had a super-destroyer blocking the port (32 -> 18 -> 2.5 -> 0, and the 18->2.5 was with a BATTLESHIP ... 2x1 odds, and I lose ... )

      On the AI turn, it did surprisingly little ... killed a worker w/a mechinf, oops, killed an armor w/a mechinf (?), killed an artillery w/a mechinf. Very odd, they basically emptied Hastings for me. Polite, I guess ... so Hastings should fall with no problem, and these pesky mechinfs can be taken out one by one. Sadly Barrage won't come in handy - perhaps the AI tactic - but with only 3 defending units in the city, who the F cares?
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      • Hmm, wonder what's missing from this picture ...

        (For a clue, look at the image's name ... )

        It was surprisingly easy, in fact - only 4 Mech Infs and 1 SAM infantry, and I only lost 2 (!) of my Marines. I was really expecting to only *maybe* take the city at all ... AI did a poor job of building experienced units with the right promotions here, IMO.

        Oh, and Hastings fell easily as well ... meaning the English are down to 4 (!) cities. No spaceship for them. Alex did build the Apollo program a few years back, but he's not a concern, due to the fact that he doesn't have nearly the tech that Elizabeth has. I'm shocked he even figured out how to build a moon-rocket ...
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        • Oops, forgot the pic ...
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          • Crush them... In the name of cultural imperialism, God and Fatherland, and not to forget: Democracy!
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            • We know not of this "Democracy" you speak. Yes, we have Universal suffrage; indeed, everyone has the power to vote for their Properly Devout representative. Free speech? Yep, got that too ... speak every word that may come out of your mouth, so long as Vishna is in your heart. Emancipation? Surely you do not believe we would hold slaves; no, indeed those who labor, do so for the betterment of their souls. Free Market? Ye, you may sell the bounty that the Gods have granted you, and may no man, but Vishnu, place a tax on it.

              But Democracy? Shame on you! Theocracy, for our beliefs and our sacrifices shall lead us to attaining liberation!
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              • But that is a democracy o holy one! A democracy don't have to be secular you see.
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                • England is in ruins; 3 of its great cities are fallen, in addition to one small city that was founded this past turn (Crazy englishmen ...), and their Capital, London, is no more. Hastings has but two more turns to live; and they have no appreciable defenses left in any city.

                  I'm not impressed at all by the AI's ability to wage war, strategically. Perhaps this is an artifact of the low level I'm playing on; but typically level only limits the available resources, from what I know of previous civs, and this Elizabeth had a reasonable military (true, she seemed not to have any armors, but she had plenty of mech infs, bombers, gunships, etc. ... and didn't use them effectively at all, choosing to leave cities with mech infs that might have been much better off inside those cities, and choosing to attack worthless targets (workers several squares inside my territory?) and leave those mechinfs open to easy picking off ... not to mention not using the airships available to her (gunships, bombers) to any effect at all. Asoka didn't do much either, and Elizabeth really has been WAY too passive with these units. Not even 'passive' per se, she's done some offensive maneuvers, but ... poor ones, poorly chosen maneuvers.
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                  • Originally posted by Nikolai
                    But that is a democracy o holy one! A democracy don't have to be secular you see.
                    Democracy implies the rule of the Demos, the 'people' so to speak. We believe in the rule of the Theos (or whatever), the Gods.
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                    • Originally posted by snoopy369
                      ..
                      Rome a few turns before also got a Hindu Missionary sent to them, to try and convert one of their cities; it succeeds, and a few turns later Rome converts to Hinduism Probably saves me from a war with them, they were getting annoyed at our proximity. I love the fact that "our close borders cause tension" is a major reason for AI aggression ... it makes a lot of sense
                      Can missionaries cross closed borders?

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                      • No.
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                        • Originally posted by snoopy369


                          Democracy implies the rule of the Demos, the 'people' so to speak. We believe in the rule of the Theos (or whatever), the Gods.
                          Tell that to the Greeks.
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                          • York falls ... far too easily, my bombers had a field day since I apparently took out their jet fighters in London back a few turns ago, and SAM infantry just don't cut it.

                            This is nearly over ... then pull back to ensure Alexander doesn't try anything. Still no Manhattan Project, though Alex has the technology to build it...
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                            • England's homeland is no more! They still have a satellite city on an island south of me, I shall raze that at my convenience. It has no meaningful armed forces...



                              Culture win in ~7 turns.
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                              • And Warwick falls, ending the English reign of terror.

                                3 turns to Culture, or maybe 2, I forget.
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