global warming

[Caesar_IV]

an AI controlled civ has gone Dr. Strangelove on me (Ragnar just in case anyone is interested) and now global warming is destroying the planet. Is there anything that can be done to slow, stop, or reversed global warming?

[joncnunn]

Nothing can reverse global warming in Civ IV.

Things that make global warming more likely:
Fallout tiles
Sum of unhealthiness

Things that make global warming less likely:
Forest tiles, Jungle tiles.

Basically the only thing you can do is build Mass Transit and Recycling Centers that reduce unheathiness, send workers to clean up the fallout and stop making it worse.

I also note that global warming event probability (perhaps all of them) do NOT scale by timescale so it's much more likely to become a serious issue on Marathon / Epic than Normal. Indeed I've never been struck by global warming on Normal speed while having it strike three times in the same Epic speed game.

[Theben]

You've played Dr. Strangelove in MP?

[Unimatrix11]

Or is it some cultural reference ?

[jnh140]

Originally posted by joncnunn


Things that make global warming less likely:
Forest tiles, Jungle tiles.

Huh, so i guess clearcutting the spaces between my cities and then mining every jungle hill for the hope of popping gems\coal wasn't really the best thing to do then


And you didn't get the strangelove reference? Stanley Kubrick? Great director? Dr. Strangelove? Great movie?

Dr. Strangelove
Or: How I learned to stop worrying and love the bomb.

[Supr49er]

Yeah, once Global Warming begins, it's really hard to contain it on Marathon speed.

Welcome to Apolyton Caesar_IV.

[Jaybe]

Originally posted by joncnunn
Things that make global warming more likely:
Fallout tiles
Sum of unhealthiness

Things that make global warming less likely:
Forest tiles, Jungle tiles.

Basically the only thing you can do is build Mass Transit and Recycling Centers that reduce unheathiness, send workers to clean up the fallout and stop making it worse.

Note that this applies to BtS 3.17. Previously, it was just the nuke detonations & blowups that caused it.

[Felch]

Originally posted by jnh140
And you didn't get the strangelove reference? Stanley Kubrick? Great director? Dr. Strangelove? Great movie?

They got it. It's just that there's a guy who posts here who uses it as a name.

Does the Doc ever come to these forums, or is he just in OTF?

[Jaybe]

jnh140, if you don't have to have all your land taken up by cities & improve all your territory, you can just leave most of your forests that aren't worked.

I rarely chop beyond 3-tile range, and when available I preserve forests between my cities to encourage their expansion. For greater forestation AND for occasional chopping.

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In huge marathon hemispheres maps with 3.17, I have rarely encountered any GW, even after several nuke detonations.

[jnh140]

Originally posted by Jaybe

I rarely chop beyond 3-tile range, and when available I preserve forests between my cities to encourage their expansion. For greater forestation AND for occasional chopping.

Ah ha! Thats a good idea. Typically I clearcut for the hammers, but leave forests in my fat cross for lumbermills. IDK, i like lumbermills. I didn't realize that preserved forest had an increased regrowth rate. For your people to get the happiness bonus-- and the bonus from that weird national park wonder-- do the preserved forests have to be in your fat cross?

i tend to just not build my national park, because im so confused, and if citz are going to work the tile, i always lumbermill it.

[Jaybe]

For your people to get the happiness bonus-- and the bonus from that weird national park wonder-- do the preserved forests have to be in your fat cross?

Yes, they DO need to be in your fat cross. You aren't building preserves outside of it for the happiness or specialists; you're doing it for the environment (and maybe future chopping opportunities). It also gives your workers something to do in the late game, in case they (or YOU) are getting bored.

i tend to just not build my national park, because im so confused, and if citz are going to work the tile, i always lumbermill it.

If you don't experiment with building a NP, then you'll never learn how to utilize it.

In late game I often take a city with 5-8 lumbermills in it; build factory, power, industrial park, THEN build national park; converting lumbermills to preserves timed to complete at about the same time as the national park. With all the engineers available there is usually not much loss in hammers, and it becomes another GP farm ... though by then I need 4800+ grappin' GPP for my next one (Marathon speed).

[wodan11]

Personally, I put parks in non-fat-cross tiles so my peeps have a Maine to go camping.

[Theben]

I put 'em in non-FCT also to encourage growth into adjacent tiles. Also b/c by then my workers have nothing else to do.

[Theben]

jnh140, your avatar: I know I've seen it before??

[jnh140]

you might remember landing from orbit, stunning them, and taking them back aboard the ship to sell as raw biological data to a species of intersteller gypsies.