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    I think I might need help. I'm constantly starting a new game in the Earth 18 civs scenario. I'm constantly thinking of a new strategy with a new civ to build an even bigger and better empire. I never finish a game. I almost always start in Asia or Europe.

    Yesterday I started as Elizabeth on Epic (my usual speed) and Monarch. I must admit I used the worldbuilder to get rid of the French right from the start, so I am rather lame as usual. When I quit playing I was comfortably ahead in tech (haven't made contact with India or China though) in mid Classical era, with the Pyramids and Great Lighthouse and working on The Great Library (in London which is going to be a GP farm and super science city) and the Colossus. And I managed to be the first to settle way up north in Scandinavia, where Sweden meets Finland. There's a nice production city there, and England's only chance for copper. So I have 5 cities, one in Scotland, one in Ireland and two in Scandinavia, and of course London. I don't think there's a chance for me to secure the 8 city minimum for Oxford University and all that, unless I beeline Astronomy and settle South America, with all its grassland rivers. Could have some nice production cities there by the start of the Industrial era perhaps. Or I could also beeline some good military tech and annex Europe, since I have a tech lead.

    The thing is, I've done this before. I should have tried it now on Emperor, since I seem to have a strong lead. But now I'm thinking I'll start a new game as the Romans. I haven't played them since I got BtS and I see that Julius is now ORG/IMP which is very interesting, and suits my greed for a huge empire through conquest perfectly. Man, why didn't I think of this before? With the 50% increased production for settlers, I'll easily manage to secure a few cities in Europe, where there is always such competition for land. And then with my Praetorians and twice the number of Great Generals, I should easily conquer the European mainland and then be ready to take on Russia. And being Organized will make this huge empire flourish! I have to try it right away!!

    But obviously I need help.

  • #2
    I also like to use the worldbuilder to make Iceland a better city spot, since I'm from Iceland and I hate how utterly useless it is, haha .

    But I don't get it why you have to wait for Astronomy to settle Iceland. Vikings from Norway settled Iceland in the 9th century. And they didn't have cultural borders from Ireland stretching to the shores of Iceland . Although they did stop by Ireland to kidnap some Celtic women...

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    • #3
      i've played earth map several times. england is a good choice.

      your first mistake is getting rid of the french via worldbuilder. they're close enough to rush, and with the marble they start with plus industrious, they'll build several wonders for you. and its quite important to establish that foothold early on; europe is so crowded that you can quickly choke several other civs and keep them at 2 or 3 cities, and then basically conquer at will. you should have no real opposition until you run into india or russia, and a huge lead in tech and wonders.

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      • #4
        The Vikings were quite ensconsed in both Ireland and northern England by the time they reached Iceland. IIRC, in the subsequent years, there wasn't a lot of trade between Iceland and the British Isles or Scandinavia because of the difficulty of the voyage. In earlier civs, the player could take a chance with gallies on the ocean (x % galley sinks). Not sure how you'd pull this off in Civ IV. Maybe get Optics early and put a settler on a caravel? (That is legal, right?)
        No matter where you go, there you are. - Buckaroo Banzai
        "I played it [Civilization] for three months and then realised I hadn't done any work. In the end, I had to delete all the saved files and smash the CD." Iain Banks, author

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        • #5
          Be a warmonger I got three cities in Scandinavia, Captured Paris, razed Madrid and crammed 2 cities onto the Iberian peninsula, and someone shoved 4 cities into the UK. Coastals tiles are nice...Just need to kill Rome then I'll have captured the Pyramids, GW and built the Oracle (got me feud).
          You just wasted six ... no, seven ... seconds of your life reading this sentence.

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          • #6
            Yeah, well I meant more like professional psychiatric help... But thanks anyways guys, I appreciate the gesture .

            I do however so want to play as the Vikings on the Earth map. How would that be possible?

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            • #7
              Custom start, choose leader/civ, choose earth, earth2, or terra or whatall. That's one way. The other would be to sub in the vikes for one of the current civs in the scenario you've been playing. That's a little more tricky -- modding a mod. Someone here can probably guide you in this. However, we have a whole other forum for this here at Apolyton called Civ4 Creation that mightalso provide clues. Not quite as many of us on that forum.

              P.S., We are all bozos on this bus, more than a wee bit crazy.
              No matter where you go, there you are. - Buckaroo Banzai
              "I played it [Civilization] for three months and then realised I hadn't done any work. In the end, I had to delete all the saved files and smash the CD." Iain Banks, author

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