Fast Cultural Win

[mkorin]

I am currently playing as Japan, Prince, Standard sized map and I am about to win a cultural win at turn 593. I wonder if anyone has figured out the fastest possible that a cultural win can be done. Or, if anyone has done one significantly faster.

Mike

[Krill]

what game speed?

[snoopy369]

Yeah, 593 is certainly a very late cultural win for me given I play on normal game speed and never get past 500

On normal, i'd say the fastest realistic is probably the 1800s. To a large extent it matters simply based on your teching ability... once you get past Hollywood/etc., you can do it very quickly.

[mkorin]

I always play epic so I didn't even think to mention the speed.

Mike

[Theben]

With corps, espec Sids, cultural wins don't take too long. I always turn off cultural wins as they're too easy.

[snoopy369]

I'd leave them on but not go for them... they're a good AI sneaky win you have to watch out for.

[Nikomakkos]

I hate AI sneaky wins more than anything. I hate when my grand scheme is interrupted because some AI nitwit is building a space ship. I leave the wins on, but it still bugs the hell out of me. This is when I start nuking.

[Unimatrix11]

And thats when games get interesting. I had a major blast (2xsense), when some A.I. went for a victory and i had to stop him by all means.
Since i am, unlike you, Niko, someone who will always repeat the same game-style unless forced to do otherwise (and i will refrain from giving TMI, this time ), i enjoy those situation a lot... More than i do enjoy the AI trying to stop me, which is in most cases nothing but annoying.

EDIT: Somehow, the player who is approaching victory seems like a villian in my eyes (He´s got to be stopped !). Nice to be the hero sometimes... kinda like that, you know ?

[Nikomakkos]

Yeah, I guess you have a good point, Uni. A healthy outlook on the game.

[rah]

I've played a lot of SP games and I've never seen the AI anywhere near a culture win. I'm usually a conquest guy and I wonder if that has any influence. What type of maps encourage the AI to lean towards culture? Islands? (which is one of the few maps I rarely play.)

[mkorin]

Rah, Cultural wins are easiest if you are on a Island or Continent by yourself and if you are usually on a conquest track, you'll never get to a cultural win. I have to make myself not take a dom or conquest win if I want a cultural win. For example, the game after the one I started this thread with, I had a cultural win at turn 598, probably better as I still had some +50% religious structures to build. However, the point is I got tired of waiting and took out the Incas, putting me over the stats for a dom win.

Mike

[Blaupanzer]

Rah, I play Prince, Epic, Large Maps and have seen the AI reach the halfway point for a cultural win in his third city when I win by tech or cultural. Incas will commonly do this. I've never seen an AI cultural win, or even seen an AI get closer than that no matter what strategy I am using.

mkorin, about when, by date, is the turn 593 -598 at our favorite speed, Epic?

[Theben]

Originally posted by snoopy369
I'd leave them on but not go for them... they're a good AI sneaky win you have to watch out for.

My problem was I'd get cultural wins when I was trying for something else.

[Garth Vader]

The Dutch are going for one in my current game, but they are only at 12-20k for their three cities (epic speed). Plus they are across a narrow channel from my 2 military cities. If they get real close I'll take them out. It's the first time I have seen an AI go for cultural.

[Krill]

Rule #1: You only need culture to pop your borders, if another civ is giving you culture problems go kill it