Proposed corporate victory condition - thoughts?

[frenzyfol]

I've been playing with corporations lately and have been tossing around the idea that there should be some kind of way to win the game through corporations.

How about a global corporate takeover.?
If you spread a corporation founded by you to x % of the world then you win the game.

Corporations come in late enough making it a fairly difficult victory condition.

Other civs can do thing about your attempted global domination, such as prevent corporations spreading using mercantilism or even boot out your corporations by spreading their own competing corps..

Thoughts?

[jkp1187]

I definitely think that there should be an economic victory, but without a serious re-working of the corporate system, I don't think your proposal would work in the game. As you pointed out -- it would be way too easy to block just by switching to mercantilism or state property.

[frenzyfol]

Oh it would definitely require game balancing and reworking etc, just like any other addition.

I'm just trying to figure out some mechanics for making corporations more useful. I find that in 99% of my games the game has been won before corporations even come into play.

While I'm here Ill add a brain fart
Maybe espionage could have a corporation component. eg. topple other corporations, steal resources, etc.

[Heraclitus]

Originally posted by jkp1187
I definitely think that there should be an economic victory, but without a serious re-working of the corporate system, I don't think your proposal would work in the game. As you pointed out -- it would be way too easy to block just by switching to mercantilism or state property.

Not quite, if you change the UN so it can enforce any civic not the victory condition becomes interesting.


Even without changing the UN, you can make a compromise by enforcing Environmentalism.

[MoonWolf]

I would vote no to a corporation victory. It's too spesific and not really a domination so to speak.

[rah]

Sadly I'd agree. I already turn off diplo victory due to the silliness happens. I'm sure I'd turn off corporate victory if there was one.

Besides, I'm an old fool, and my first love is still "state property".

[Addled Platypus]

no go, sorry

just like a spy victory

[Supr49er]

No to Corporate victory.

However a "Corporation " mod might be fun to play once in a while.

[iamfishhead]

A more general economic victory would be kind of cool. On the other hand, I suppose that if you're eleigble for some kind of economic victory, like say, account for 66% of the world GDP, it wouldn't be super hard to turn that into many of the other victories, provided you maintain that level of domination.

[TriMiro]

Corporation victory: Found at least 4 corporations and have all four of them spread to 66% of the world.

That would be hard, since corps compete with each other, but would require OB with many other civs and a lot of trade + gold.

[snoopy369]

Hard, certainly.

Fun? Probably not...

Victory conditions need to be fun first, balance for hard can come later. I have yet to hear a realistic corporate victory condition that would also be fun (and I've been having these discussions since before BtS)...

[Blaupanzer]

I suspect it is more fun to BE the Bilderburgers (the so-called Capitalist Cabal that runs the world) than it would be to game them. An economic victory that is fun to play in the context of the current Civ design (which is really still Civ II on steroids) could probably be built in (as were culture and religion), but the basis for that is only hinted at now. I'm like Rah, in that I turn off diplo victory because of all the contextually nonsensical stuff that can happen with that option on.